Producer Telling Me: "But HD bleeds..."

TimeKoder13

TimeKoder13

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I'm tired of trying to enlighten these freakin non-believers who've never taken the time to read one single tech article. So I'm asked to help out on a $40,000 music video. The label owners, who trust my opinion, ask me how they can get the most bang and production value. I say rent an HVX setup. The freakin producer comes back whining about how it makes no sense because someone put the buzz in his ear not to shoot hd b/c it bleeds. Anyone know how much of a problem the "bleeding" really is? I've never even heard about this tho' I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I'm just sure it's more denial from dudes set in their ways, resistant to change, no matter how gradual.
 
I've never heard of that, but I do know that shooting in high def 24p will give his music video high production value. It will look closer to film (which is highly desired in the music video world). HD will save you a ton of money vs film, too.
 
Thanx for the replies. I was able to garner a little bit of nfo about bleeding from HDTVs and projectors, especially on skin tones, but still not much b/c of the actual cameras themselves. The producer's like "Aw, were gonna need to hire a tech b/c (so & so) never shoots hd w/o a specialist on set the whole time. It's a nightmare. We're gonna shoot super16! Plus, then we won't have to buy hard drives." I'm done with him. Let him shoot 16. I didn't know DPs and lighting directors were now free if ya shot film and the transfer houses were giving out 4 for 1 specials for using it. My nickname is The SaveMan for situations just like this. I'm now awaiting the post shoot "do you think you can...?" phone call.
 
What a bunch of bs. Some producers just never listen to anyone...even that little voice inside their head.
 
I remember years ago, a network producer and DP came into the rental department and asked for a side by side demo of the SDX900 and DVX100.

Turns out they didn't want a demo, but they wanted to shoot tests that would last all day. I remember the sun had set by the time they were done shooting in company parking lot. When they came in and watched the footage side by side, I had to contain myself. The DP was narrating the look of both cameras- and forgive my frankness... was a total tool.

The DP kept saying "Oh wow, we can't go with the SDX900 the blacks look 'PLASTICY'." The producer just kept saying, "oh we don't want that!"

There was nothing "plasticy" about the blacks in the SDX900, nor had I ever heard ANYONE describe the color black from any camera that way. Everyone who watched the parking lot test who had any sort of objectivity could see that the image from the SDX was superior in every way to the DVX. Including our intern who whispered in my ear more than once about the DP's ramblings.

This was about 3-4 years ago and the network wanted the show shot with a broadcast level camera, at the time the DVX100 didn't qualify.

The DP had just purchased the DVX and wanted to get a rental from the production company. He convinced the producer that because of the "plasticy" blacks of the SDX900 they were better off with his camera.

The producer convinced the network and viola! Guess anyone and everyone can be an expert if they put it on their business card.

I.
 
Illya Friedman said:
When they came in and watched the footage side by side, I had to contain myself. The DP was narrating the look of both cameras- and forgive my frankness... was a total tool.

The DP kept saying "Oh wow, we can't go with the SDX900 the blacks look 'PLASTICY'." The producer just kept saying, "oh we don't want that!"

There was nothing "plasticy" about the blacks in the SDX900, nor had I ever heard ANYONE describe the color black from any camera that way. Everyone who watched the parking lot test who had any sort of objectivity could see that the image from the SDX was superior in every way to the DVX. Including our intern who whispered in my ear more than once about the DP's ramblings.
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This is hilarious!!!

:grin:

It always amazes me when people claim to know something they don't know poo about.

It would have been really great if he told the producer that his DVX had a more shallow depth of field!
 
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