Press Release: HMC150, "the new DVX"

It's 1080p/24pN and 1080i/24p

Gotta read the entire article some mores. But, we have no idea if that's the same as the Sony EX-1's Full 1080p frame. We really hope so.

Being that it's still 1/3" CCDs, should we expect any difference in resolution? Namely, can it ever compete with the resolution the EX-1 outputs?
 
While all of this was expected since last year, and aggressively requested many months before that, the mixed emotions and mood swings surrounding its innevitable announcement haven't changed.

The HMC150 simply doesn't generate the same intensity or excitement that most people shared when the DVX or HVX was released.
It's like the HMC150 will be receiving the "middle child" treatment.
But hey, at least it doesn't appear bastardized like the HMC70.

I rarely express sympathy for an inanimate object, but the HMC70 really deserves some pity.
How does a re-housed consumer camera that was initially set to debut under $2 grand end up 6 benji's over and remain underwhelming?
Panasonic must have the answer because it appears they went out of their way to appeal to the market segment that buys out of guilt for uninspired ingenuity and overpriced technical underachievements.
There really is nothing more to say about that camera, the silence that enveloped the thread started on it yesterday is a clear enough indicator.

Assuming Canon continues to play it safe, all eyes are now officially turned to the upcoming Scarlet announcement.
 
Jon Neely said:
So berry, because this can only shoot in 1080i but shoot 24p with flags I presume, is this still the 1440x1080 like HDV size, or are we looking at a progressive 1080p clips hidden in the interlace footage? Sounds good to me.
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Who says it only shoots 1080i? That's not correct. The press release says 1080/24p Native. No interlace, no pulldown, no flags, no anything. Just straight-up 1920x1080 at 24 fps. (actually I'm guessing on that 1920 part, because AVC-HD supports both 1920x1080 and 1440x1080 and we don't know which profile they've chosen, but I have to assume it's 1920...)
 
The HMC is perfect for thoes that need HD with long record times, and no tapes. Wedding shooter, event documentation, ETC.

I will Certainly buy this camera. it will let me shoot HD dance performances and long form recordings on "cheap" media, like an SD card that the Client can keep.

Infact if it at least matches the HVX200 for resolution, even if its slightly under, it will still be awesome.
 
If there's no HVX upgrade announcement and nothing from Canon Camp it's either this or Scarlet.

I'll be happy to give up my HVX in exchange for a Full 1080p frame with less noise. Err, well, as long as there's at least as much HVX resolution.
 
Wow.

It seems like these guys dont shoot too much.... Or worry too much about gear. I stopped caring what camera i shot on after shooting real film....

But i think this DVX replacement is VERY cool.....
 
TimurCivan said:
I stopped caring what camera i shot on after shooting real film.....
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It spoils you. The first time you see your stuff projected, you forget about all that pixel counting. :beer:

About time the DVX had a successor. I just hope it captures color the way the DVX does. Can't wait for NAB. :thumbup:
 
If you look at the zoomed in pic here:
Panasonic_AG-HMC150_prov_CU.jpg


You can see there is now an additional ND Filter setting (1/16?) and if my eyes aren't deceiving me, is that some sort of covering to protect the audio level dials? I don't know about you guys, but that was one pet peeve of mine about the DVX, always nudging those audio dials and then finding out after it's too late.
 
If the price is right... this maybe a good companion for the HVX200. With a firmware update, I'm sure the two cameras can be made to match in visual tonality.
 
Honestly the audio dials look like a sticker. It's a Prototype picture. Could be wrong, though.
 
ProjX v2.0 said:
If you look at the zoomed in pic here:
Panasonic_AG-HMC150_prov_CU.jpg


You can see there is now an additional ND Filter setting (1/16?) and if my eyes aren't deceiving me, is that some sort of covering to protect the audio level dials? I don't know about you guys, but that was one pet peeve of mine about the DVX, always nudging those audio dials and then finding out after it's too late.
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since it does not record to tape...i wonder what they do to the spare compartment.
Just wish there are two slot for sd card.
 
Man they ripped panasonic a new one in the comments of that interview. I have to say that so far I haven't seen any 13Mbps avchd footage that has looked better than hdv from a hv20. I personally think avchd is a consumer format the (sony and pana) cam up with to make video sizes smaller for consumers who don't really notice the quality loss.

Smaller footage = you can put it on a dvd = you can get the datarate small enough to fit on 1 sd card instead of 4(p2).

What if avchd under 18Mbps just isn't as good as hdv? Panasonic needed a consumer format. They pledged anti hdv so they need a hd consumer format. So what if it isn't better at the current datarates it is smaller.
 
I've been testing with HDC-SD9 with 17mbps recording of 1080/60i and 1080/24p, I think it could look good but with its tiny CCDs, I can't really tell how well it would be with 1/3 CCDs. Many artifacts that shows with SD9 look CCD related, but I've been having drop frame issue for fast panning.

I hope it's going to be improved with AG-HMC150. It would be great for schools and hobbist and as second cam for me.
 
Barry_Green said:
Who says it only shoots 1080i? That's not correct. The press release says 1080/24p Native. No interlace, no pulldown, no flags, no anything. Just straight-up 1920x1080 at 24 fps. (actually I'm guessing on that 1920 part, because AVC-HD supports both 1920x1080 and 1440x1080 and we don't know which profile they've chosen, but I have to assume it's 1920...)
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Thanks Berry, Sounds like EX1 killer to me, I really dont need the 1/2'' sensors anyways(Ill just add more light) sounds good to me HMC fro primary, and the DVX as a good b camera. I am still kinda worried about the noise... thats kinda always there once you buy something with the Panny name on it...


Jon
 
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