Just questioning the logic of this poll. Not saying that FCP X will be the standard. IMHO there is no industry standard among the top NLEs and there won't be one for the next few years. Once upon a time Avid was b/c everybody was aiming for it. It's pretty much an even playing field where each of the top NLE has their own strengths and weaknesses and editors choose one over the others based on their individual needs and workflow.
POLL: Which NLE will be the "industry standard" a year from now?
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Just questioning the logic of this poll. Not saying that FCP X will be the standard. IMHO there is no industry standard among the top NLEs and there won't be one for the next few years. Once upon a time Avid was b/c everybody was aiming for it. It's pretty much an even playing field where each of the top NLE has their own strengths and weaknesses and editors choose one over the others based on their individual needs and workflow.
Xrayspecs
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"In a year, most professional editors will be using FCP X": http://www.crumplepop.com/blog/?p=369
alpi69
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For a tv-network FCPX will be a good choice once all the network stuff is up and running. The reason there are events and projects separated like they are can only be that you have footage/events in one place and clients editing projects somewhere else (in the house). Besides FCPX is so much faster and with the new keyword-event-paradigm perfect for editorial work.
Avid has always been the standard on top and only few "real films" (i mean 35mm blockbusters) have been made with FCP.
If FCPX will ever be up to the task of a full feature film with the needed audio/xml and whatever I/O? I have no doubt. But they will not break AVID in the topmarket.
ShawnMi
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In a year, FCPX will be "awesome"...
ShawnMi
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Really, in what way and to whom? It almost seems as if you want to compare what Premiere Pro is today to what FCPX will be next year.
Shawn
Not certain what this thread is providing in the way of information.
Why not just use what you feel meets your needs, and leave it at that.
Why not just use what you feel meets your needs, and leave it at that.
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It is just another very general internet forum poll. I find it is far easier to pick up thoughts and new perspectives about a new product through these kinds of things.
What you said is right though, and a good way for others to look at the argument.
FCPX is definitely a few steps back as a 'pro' app, but potentially several steps forward in making a better NLE. Vast majority of editors today are amateurs, or work in non-traditional workflows, and have no need for some of the standards that the 'industry' has implemented. So, apple has potentially made themselves more accessible to the masses with FCPX.
I have always hated the FCP/PP NLE interface. I've been looking for something more progressive. However, making the switch from Old FCP and New Adobe Suites may be hard. Adobe has some awesome software that I would have to purchase even if I went with FCPX, and due to the integration of AE,PS, and PP pro, and the ease of flash catalyst, and so on, I may end up using Premiere Pro more often than FCPX, and that would mean that FCPX would be an expensive add-on to my tool set.
I do not see FCPX competing with FCP7 or Avid in the high end realm for the next 2yrs.
I think "industry standard" is too vague. I would prefer "professional" and would describe that as anyone who primarily uses editing software to make they money that they live off of. If by industry you mean broadcast/film, AVID is and has always been the standard. FCP made some great inroads, but AVID was king.
Ultimately, the "standard" will be whatever editors choose to use in their profession. It could be FCP X in the future, or Premiere, or remain AVID. It's too early to tell really.
Ultimately, the "standard" will be whatever editors choose to use in their profession. It could be FCP X in the future, or Premiere, or remain AVID. It's too early to tell really.
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True, but people come to forums to get perspectives from others.
I like the idea of updating the NLE as we know it. There really is a lot of room for improvement in that arena. That makes me tempted to try it out. However, I am going to be getting the Adobe Creative suite because of what it is capable of as a package. That makes me rethink whether I want to spend the extra $300+ for fcpx.
I'd be interested to know if any users finding themselves being significantly more productive with fcpx for simpler projects.
Rolf Silber
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Maybe. But we do mostly narrative stuff - TV-Movies - so we will be sitting comfortably in AVIDistan for now.
And I will check the future developments of FCPX after I have burned my nose by predicting loud mouthed to my guys that it would be a jaw dropper and we should kick out the "old" stuff... should have kept my big mouth shut... ;-)
Now - let's wait and see where to it develops. Start to like motion 5 though ....
HansSteinert
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Premiere Pro will be the new Final Cut.
Avid will continue to be the most used for the huge Hollywood budget films.
Final Cut will be a lost cause used primarily for non pro work.
Avid will continue to be the most used for the huge Hollywood budget films.
Final Cut will be a lost cause used primarily for non pro work.
What is "non pro work?"
I'm guessing, but he probably means a combination of:
a) work done by people who don't produce/edit videos as their primary profession
b) work done for personal use
HansSteinert
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Are you guys saying that all video editors, free lancers, studios, internet video providers, et al. cannot use FCP X in its current form to edit with?
That's a huge statement. I can see those editors and shops that require certain workflows, mostly collaborative, cannot use it.
But I can assure you that you can easily edit, DVCProHD, AVCHD, and other file based media in FCP X. If you need XML, OMF, 3rd party grading, etc., it's not available.
But a pro shop or individual pro editor certainly can use FCP X.
That's a huge statement. I can see those editors and shops that require certain workflows, mostly collaborative, cannot use it.
But I can assure you that you can easily edit, DVCProHD, AVCHD, and other file based media in FCP X. If you need XML, OMF, 3rd party grading, etc., it's not available.
But a pro shop or individual pro editor certainly can use FCP X.
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HansSteinert
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I personally couldn't cut efficiently without multi-cam, and I would imagine many others are the same way.
Don't get me wrong, FCPX is usable... but this isn't about usability. It's about which option allows you to work the most efficiently. I don't see many pro independent editors reaching for it as their primary NLE when there are better affordable options. The CS5.5 master collection is a steal.