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ando said:
- more jello fixing thru 2 point stabilization. check dude's face. and how many times the moon on the sky moves so much in 3 seconds? the fixing is so bad the moon looks like a sky replacement :D




other parts of the video are heavily retimed. some left at 30p

i wonder how many of the "wooow" people know how to do this stuff at home?
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That's just from bumps and seems in the road.
 
For us videophiles... every little detail is extremely important and has to be perfect (or near perfect). The viewer and audience out in tv/movie land don't ever notice the small imperfections if the story, lighting, cam op., directing, acting, etc... are good. But once one part of the equation looks or seems like it is crap (really bad lighting and/or acting, etc...) then your audience will more than likely pick up on it.

There are definitely problems with the Canon and Nikon still photography cameras (5D MKII) that so happens to have video integrated, but it is indeed a step in a good direction. It truly amazes me to see people get so nit picky over a camera that performs moderately well, when feature films shot on palmcorders are still getting distributed direct to DVD as we speak.

I truly have no real opinion as to whether the canon or nikon still camera shoots better video... but I do know that things are moving in an interesting direction and I can't wait to see more people shooting REAL stuff on these cameras to see some real results.

I'm done ranting on theories and balogna... sorry.
 
I'm sorry but I'm still not convinced, I have yet to see EXACT frames CLEARLY showing any forms of "jello".

Are you even sure of what you are referring to you when you refer to "jello"?

Is there color banding (perhaps, I didn't take a close look) however your looking at a web compressed file and not the original file.

Anhar,
 
I took the moon frames, and compared for "jello" artifacts, the comparisions show no effects of "jello":

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For Gods sake! The best way to criticise this camera is to go out, buy one, test it yourself and make the final conclusions from your own work. The same way a lot of us did with the D90. Laforet's footage looks amazing. And this guy is going to make a lot of money because the time and money he spent creating it. Thats right, he will be making lots of dough with this marketing gem. And great for him.
If you want to waste your time and money analizying it and making your own conclusions without been part of the working team behind the project then feel free to do it. It is your time and money. But are you going to get anything from doing this, well absolutely not. Canon will make millions of dollars from this camera as it works on perfecting the technology. That is a reality.
 
John Caballero said:
For Gods sake! The best way to criticise this camera is to go out, buy one, test it yourself and make the final conclusions from your own work. The same way a lot of us did with the D90. Laforet's footage looks amazing. And this guy is going to make a lot of money because the time and money he spent creating it. Thats right, he will be making lots of dough with this marketing gem. And great for him.
If you want to waste your time and money analizying it and making your own conclusions without been part of the working team behind the project then feel free to do it. It is your time and money. But are you going to get anything from doing this, well absolutely not. Canon will make millions of dollars from this camera as it works on perfecting the technology. That is a reality.
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Actually, Ando's master plan is to bring down Canon one pixel at a time. Poor Canon, they don't stand a chance. Ode to the oh Canon! How I loved thee.
 
Actually, Ando's master plan is to bring down Canon one pixel at a time. Poor Canon, they don't stand a chance. Ode to thee! oh Canon, How I loved thee.
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LOL. Don't people know that Canon is one of the corporations that control our brains and pockets?
 
I had a look at the video, agreed that most certainly has rolling shutter issues.

I didn't notice untill you slowed down the video, and its not extremly bad.

Anyways this camera produces stunning images regardless, its just another limitation LIKE every other camera out there.
 
@ ando - complete tosh

@ ando - complete tosh

you seemed to have taken a lot of time to attempt to rip this piece of work apart, technically speaking. I can't help but inquire as to what your motivations might be?

you don't have to behave as if your being thretened! This will just become another tool at our disposal helping people get their creative ideas across to the wider community. It's cheap, it's easy and the qulaity is out of this world. Period.
 
booggerg2 said:
Actually, Red doesn't stand a chance.. Look at what happened to Scarlet..
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Yeah, I've been reading the thread over at Red. Jannard likes to talk about how they are putting pressure on the big boys, and in many ways I think they are, but it has been the big boys that have rearranged Red's game plan over the last couple of weeks no matter how he spins it.

I'm not sure if Red has the R&D resources to even start to compete with Canon's sensor technology. When Canon finally wakes up, decides to get off their butts and move, they can do some incredible things instead of slowly releasing incremental improvements to make a buck. I'd like to thank Red for their presence in the market. I think they finally woke up Canon.

The problem is: Canon is now awake.

People over there seem to be concerned that Scarlett will now be even more expensive. I will go on record that Scarlett will now have to come in at cheaper price point than projected and have more features than the 5D if they hope to have significant market penetration. That is what will put Canon on the run and gut their camcorder line.

Scarlett:

2,499.00-2,999.00
fully manual
variable frame rates
XLR audio inputs 24 bit, 44.1, 48 and 96K, phantom power, line level/mic level
Eos and Nikon mounts
Full Size Sensor/Just as low light sensitive as Canon

This is where Scarlett needs to be if they hope to get a jump on Nikon and Canon. But I don't think they will be able to pull the sensor off. We'll see. I'll buy it if they do.

For some reason, Jannard reminds me of John DeLorean. Remember the DeLorean DMC-12?
 
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It's good to know there are wake Up people over here and there.
f64manray said:
Yeah, I've been reading the thread over at Red. Jannard likes to talk about how they are putting pressure on the big boys, and in many ways I think they are, but it has been the big boys that have rearranged Red's game plan over the last couple of weeks no matter how he spins it.

I'm not sure if Red has the R&D resources to even start to compete with Canon's sensor technology. When Canon finally wakes up, decides to get off their butts and move, they can do some incredible things instead of slowly releasing incremental improvements to make a buck. I'd like to thank Red for their presence in the market. I think they finally woke up Canon.

The problem is: Canon is now awake.

People over there seem to be concerned that Scarlett will now be even more expensive. I will go on record that Scarlett will now have to come in at cheaper price point than projected and have more features than the 5D if they hope to have significant market penetration. That is what will put Canon on the run and gut their camcorder line.

Scarlett:

2,499.00-2,999.00
fully manual
variable frame rates
XLR audio inputs 24 bit, 44.1, 48 and 96K, phantom power, line level/mic level
Eos and Nikon mounts
Full Size Sensor/Just as low light sensitive as Canon

This is where Scarlett needs to be if they hope to get a jump on Nikon and Canon. But I don't think they will be able to pull the sensor off. We'll see. I'll buy it if they do.

For some reason, Jannard reminds me of John DeLorean. Remember the DeLorean DMC-12?
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Smart POV -- resumes the thing.
 
Not sure why one would obsess frame by frame over this video. The footage looks very good for Canon's first baby step into the DSLR hybrid market. I think this camera will do pretty well. If I were getting a new DSLR I would seriously consider this one.
 
lucky me. i WAS looking for a dslr. i was ready to pony up for the nikon, although i have many more canon lenses at my disposal. saw the jello and was willing to live with it. heard about the 5d and can't live without out it. not the best for video, but a damn good camera (especially a first serious one for me) and a great way to get used to shooting video. will what i shoot fall under the same scrutiny as vincent's - hopefully on a story/filmmaking level, not someone who's criticized hot pixels or questionable motion blur. if they even consider that, i've failed as a filmmaker. canon announced a DSLR i can afford. they had me at "video."
 
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