Picture Profile Request

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Ralph B

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I'm going to be testing an FS100 at a dealer, and I want to enter in a picture profile that will correct the magenta/red cast on fleshtones. Additionally, I'm looking for a PP that doesn't require grading to look good. In short, a basic default setting that the camera should have had in the first place.

I've studied the PP threads, but it's very hard to make sense of it for someone who doesn't have the camera.

Any thoughts or suggestions you have will be welcome.
 
Ralph B said:
I'm going to be testing an FS100 at a dealer, and I want to enter in a picture profile that will correct the magenta/red cast on fleshtones. Additionally, I'm looking for a PP that doesn't require grading to look good. In short, a basic default setting that the camera should have had in the first place.

I've studied the PP threads, but it's very hard to make sense of it for someone who doesn't have the camera.

Any thoughts or suggestions you have will be welcome.
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Take AB -RANGE PP ...

Black Level: 0
Gamma: CinemaTone2
Black Gamma: Range = High / Level = +7
Knee: Point = 102.5% / Slope = -1
Color Mode: Type = Standard / Level =8
Color Level: -3
Color Phase: +1
Color Depth: R=-2, G=-6, B=-7, C=0, M=+2, Y=+5
WB Shift = All 0
Detail = Level = -3 / Manual Set = Off

and try to set Color Phase to 0 and R-Gain in WB Shift to -1 .. you have to try any other way to reduce red ... it's hard to give you exact "recipe" - as it's depends of current situation...
 
So many people like ABRange... just looks funky to me. ABNorm is a bit flatter but I think it's more faithful and in the end gives the better image.

ABRange does funky stuff with contrast, black levels, and overall exposure.
 
Michael Solomon said:
So many people like ABRange... just looks funky to me. ABNorm is a bit flatter but I think it's more faithful and in the end gives the better image.

ABRange does funky stuff with contrast, black levels, and overall exposure.
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Do you have any footage that shows this? works and looks fine too me.
 
Did my first round of testing today. I really want to like this camera, but one problem is clipping in the red channel on human flesh. Very ugly. Highlights blow out in yellow or orange. I had my GH2 along to shoot a comparison picture, and flesh tones are beautifully rendered with it. I don't want to give up on the FS100, though. Any suggestions?
 
Reduce the overall Colour Level to around -2 or -3, and 'add saturation to taste' back in post.

FWIW, I was editing some GH2 footage last week and I have to say, I preferred the FS100. Picture Profiles are like re-tuning your car. Yes, you can get some great performance hikes out of it, but we're talking 10-15% more, not double. And the corollary to that is that you can halve the performance with a bad tune. (I'm as guilty of that as anyone)
 
Thanks, MattDavis. I re-read an earlier post of yours where you came to terms with the fact that no matter what you did, the FS100 "leans to plasticity in highlights". Do you still feel that's the case?
 
Let me justify that statement: I'm comparing the FS100 to the F3 with its S-Log feature, Red footage from various cameras, EX1 & 3 with CineGamma and so on.

After 6 months with the camera, I'm dialling back the saturation and treating knee very carefully (still not sure what to recommend as a non-case scenario). I have many PPs - one for indoor quickies, one for indoor shoots with budget for grading, a couple for outdoor, one for Canon 5D shoots, one for 'Aaaargh' shoots (no idea what's happening next). Each of them vary over time.

Hopefully, VERY SOON NOW, I can link to a video on the European Sony website that will hopefully elucidate these topics. Until then, expose for highlights, be really careful about that knee setting. Test early, test often.
 
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