Philip Bloom's "Hirano San"

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henryolonga said:
Phil - by the way disputes aside - I really applaud you for growing you tache for charity. I would like to donate to your cause - how can one do that?
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Feeling guilty now you want to donate money?


Truth is everyone here who knocked Philip Bloom should be ashamed of themselves. If this man can make images from a t2i look amazing what's to think he can't do more with a better camera? Give him some time to master it and then you will see.

The disgusting attacks on your part and many others was stating that PB is not a real director and recording random things to music is nothing special. Seems like you never learned "respect" growing up.

Now I know why you never made it as a Musician and probably never will...... All of your videos I seen on Vimeo are not even .0000001% the quality of P.B.. get your head out of your ass dude and respect people who give their life to this art.


Barry, Philip and so many others thank you for doing this. If I get a warning for a personally attack then I deserve it, but buddy needed to be told the truth. For me as a College student I simply could not afford a $5K camera so I will continue to use DSLRs but it's nice to know of other cameras on the market.

Only time will tell if the Panasonic AF100 is worth it, but one thing we must NEVER do is disrespect the people who make all of this possible.
 
bwhitz said:
Philip is good... no doubt. But "genius" come on... I've seen much better short films that get WAY less exposure. He was just at the right place at the right time when the DSLRs hit the internet. Again, not disrespecting his craft... because he is a good operator. But I honestly think that most of us here could go out and shoot "Dublin's people" if we wanted... but few of us, most likely none, could go out and shoot The Departed.
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If you can go out and do it. Philip's shot composition is phenomenal. But seriously, stop with the trolling.

Small warning to all - Im a bit sick and tired today of the rude manner of some of our members.
 
um ok I'll be the first one to say it. It's looking to me like the GH13 still produces better image quality than AF100.
 
first just want to thank philip for the commentary. a lot of interesting information; which i think many people need to go back and listen again before the criticism. i loved the zeiss 85 shots, which i cant wait to try my ais 85 1.4 on it. judging from the zeiss footage, nikon manual glass should be very pleasing for myself.

Homunculus, i am not sure how you can say that. there is just not enough justification for your statement. no one on here except the five who were in japan(and even what philip says, they arent even sure), of what type of image will be capable out of the af100. everyone needs to be patient, and explore the camera on their own for optimal performance. the imager is sharp, everything else is just setting/lens configuration.
 
bwhitz said:
^ I'm with this guy.
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Show a little respect please. You have no clue about my work just picking one fun solitary example that got played a lot as it was one of first 7d pieces.

It's tiresome and on behalf of DVXuser and filmmakers everywhere it represents everything that is wrong here. Henry Olanga's comments were bang out of order especially when I have answered his questions helpfully many times.

Please let us return DVXuser to the filmmakers and the aspiring filmmakers and the rest of you learn some manners and civility. I come here an it depresses the hell out of me and you wonder why I hardly come here anymore?

I have made a great many friends on here and I respect every single person's right to express an opinion on things but it's becoming more and more the like the talkbacks on AICN and YouTube than a place to inspire and advise people.

Just because you are sitting behind a laptop should not change the way you speak to people. If anything it should be even more respectful as you do not know them.

Is this commentary on the state of things here going to affect anything? No. But I just want a few of you to just reflect on you behaviour.

I have no intention of repeatedly defending my work as it futile but clearly the majority no nothing of what I do and clearly don't care either!

"My two cents"
 
PS I for one DO think Philip Bloom is nigh on genius. No I don't think even 5% of people here can produce anything like what he produces. Because it's not just about the image it's the full shebang. In fact I'm su rprised no one here has mentioned the one thing Bloom has in more genius than even his video skills: His musical taste. You notice his videos are usually the most moving, this is because tehy're sync'd with the best music of some of the finest taste I've seen. It all comes together. But unfortunately even Bloom's genius is not doing this camera any favors so far because the image quality looks mediocre to me
 
OK; I haven't spent much time in this section, let alone this thread, prior to today.

But I will say this -- anyone, and by this I do mean anyone, who further takes it upon themselves to assess a member personally instead of their work or the subject at hand is going to find it very difficult to log in the next time they try. This may be temporary or it may not be. But it's going to happen and it's not up for debate.

I hope this is clear enough. Test it at your peril.
 
Everts said:
I few questions maybe Barry could answer this :

Was it possible to load scenefiles (like filmic, city etc) ?
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Yes.

If not, was it not possible to adjust the scene file settings other then sharpness or choose a different colormatrix in this prepoduction model ?
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Yes, all settings were active, but we didn't really have much of a way to evaluate them so we had to sort of "fire and forget".


Why would you drop the sharpness settings ?
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Because edge enhancement can add artificial halos around objects of high contrast, and film doesn't do that, so when you're shooting for a filmic look you don't want the sharpness set very high.

Are the scenefile settings different from the hmc150/hpx 171 or the hpx500 ?
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Same as the HPX171.

Did anyone get a chance to test the XLR inputs ?
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Nobody bothered. There were some shotgun mics there, but we weren't shooting narrative, so I don't know if anyone even bothered to mount one. And when shooting overcranking/slow-mo, sound isn't recorded anyway. So, short answer: no, nobody tested.
 
bgundu said:
Sadly, I have been on this forum since 2003, and I have noticed a considerable decline in professionalism. I'm not sure when people will realize that the gear is only half the picture.
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God bless Bob Gundu. Bob has indeed been with us since 2003, and has absolutely inspired me several times with his beautiful footage.

But he hits the nail squarely on the head. Being a professional has nothing to do with what you own, and it has everything to do with how you act. Want to be thought of as a professional? Conduct yourself like one.
 
Max Smith said:
The unfortunate thing about this thread turning into a viper's nest is that there is a legitimate technical discussion to be had but it keeps getting drowned out by the drama.
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Agreed. Reasoned discussion is welcome. Drama is not.

This is a $5k camera that does a lot of things really well (like minimize aliasing and morie) and may or may not do something things so well (like the relatively high degree of clipping), something that might be eliminated had Mr. Bloom or anyone else shooting with it the time to get a better feel or the settings, or maybe not, none of us know, we can only go by the little bit of footage we've seen.
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Well, see, no, that's not true. You don't just have what you've seen to go on, you also have the words of those of us who used it for two days. If Philip or Filippo or Emmanuel or Vicenc or Alex had come back and said "nice try but no cigar", that would carry a lot of weight, wouldn't it? So why doesn't it carry a lot of weight when Philip or Filippo or I say that this is a "stonking, corking, great camera" (three of Philip's words), or Alex says "I'm comfortable using this instead of the Red", or I say I'm willing to use it on a reasonably well-budgeted indie, or Emmanuel makes a video of him and his romance with the AF100?

I ask you to please consider -- is it possible that we all are drugged and blind, or is it more likely that the thing is pretty good and we're pretty happy with it, and therefore if you're not feeling the love, maybe you should consider withholding the death sentence until you learn more about it?

And that's where your point comes into play -- if we could have a well-mannered, professional discussion, all this could be happily hammered out. But when the drama kicks in, it ruins it for everyone.

And while it's ridiculous to criticize the shooters and the camera, it's perfectly reasonable to point out percieved flaws in the footage, if only to understand why they exist and learn how and to what degree they may be addressed.
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Exactly. I know that we saw some stuff happening in high-ISO footage that we weren't happy about, and we want to get more time with it to experiment further.
 
life4eva said:
Only time will tell if the Panasonic AF100 is worth it, but one thing we must NEVER do is disrespect the people who make all of this possible.
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Appreciated. This is the right sentiment. Everyone should show respect to the other members. A community can't function with rampant disrespect and drama flailing around us, but when we acknowledge that we may very well have something to learn from the other person we're talking to, well, that's when the magic happens.
 
philip bloom said:
Please let us return DVXuser to the filmmakers and the aspiring filmmakers and the rest of you learn some manners and civility.
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+1

I have made a great many friends on here and I respect every single person's right to express an opinion on things but it's becoming more and more the like the talkbacks on AICN and YouTube than a place to inspire and advise people.
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Agreed. This is a place for people to learn and to grow, not a place to savage and attack and disrespect. This is not a free-for-all youtube place. It's an online community and it is a place for us to learn from one another, to be inspired by one another, and to mentor and advise one another.

If what you're doing doesn't fall into one of those categories -- please take it elsewhere, and thanks for understanding.

Just because you are sitting behind a laptop should not change the way you speak to people. If anything it should be even more respectful as you do not know them.
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Agreed 1,000%. I really think some of the members here would be shocked at who the people are that they are interacting with on this community.

Is this commentary on the state of things here going to affect anything? No. But I just want a few of you to just reflect on you behaviour.
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Actually, yes it will. I believe that you calling it out will have an effect, and we as a group of moderators are going to take a more active hand in excising the negative and reinforcing the positive contributions to the community. And apologies from all of us on you having to bear the brunt of the negativity.
 
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