Panning 'mud', reasons why and firmware update

I'm still thinking of just grabbing a D5000 for like $600 US to tide me over until the DSLR dust settles
 
I'm going to walk up to the local camera shop and see if I can get some old fashioned service.....yeah I'm dreaming. These online store wankers won't even email me when stock arrives....I have to get back to them for another "chat"
 
you can't talk John with all your D90 bitchin
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But I did AFTER I used it for a while. Maybe I will about the GH1 after a few days with it, then I'll go and get the Mark ll and probably won't like it and go and get the Pentax and probably won't like it either and finally go back to the HVX200.

BTW: I was right about the D90, otherwise you would still have it! LOL I am still making money with mine. LOLL!
 
Kholi said:
The body is a 960 dollar difference before tax. Add Tax and a Lens and you're talking 400 more on top of that.

It's safe to say the MKii takes more than 3200 to match the shooting kit that you get with the GH-1.

But how much did you pay for your MKii, Pappas? Having fun shootin' with it?
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Here's your shooting kit. A Used Canon lens: 100 bucks

Tax is a giving for either camera, if your don't order out of state.


Squig, come on man; stop purposely creating obstacles in your path to make the leap.


I bought two excellent 70's manual lenses for my Canon that shot Anamorphic tests for less than 100 bucks. If I want an auto lens for the Canon, which I own already, however in your case that's a 100 bucks too. However I use only manual lenses.

I think it's easier for you fear the purchase than it is to face the production that follows once you are set with your gear to shoot your film. That's complety understandable squig; production is war, and usually the casualties of that war, are the directors after the dust settles.

The problems is; you erect these non issues against yourself, and they're easily resolved.



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Anamorphic DSLR Lens Test Images... links:
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http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1637705&postcount=84

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John Caballero said:
But I did AFTER I used it for a while. Maybe I will about the GH1 after a few days with it, then I'll go and get the Mark ll and probably won't like it and go and get the Pentax and probably won't like it either and finally go back to the HVX200.

BTW: I was right about the D90, otherwise you would still have it! LOL I am still making money with mine. LOLL!
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I needed some quick cash to fund some lens purchases otherwise I'd still have it.
I did say I was thinking of getting a D5000. I do miss the D90. If they update the firmware I'll buy 2 and I eagerly anticipate the D300s/D400.
 
PappasArts said:
Squig, come on man; stop purposely creating obstacles in your path to make the leap.

I think it's easier for you fear the purchase than it is to face the production that follows once you are set with your gear to shoot your film. That's complety understandable squig; production is war, and usually the casualties of that war, are the directors after the dust settles.

The problems is; you erect these non issues against yourself, and they're easily resolved.

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lenses aren't really an issue, I can get adapters for my nikon and M42 glass for almost nothing. I am the director, producer and DOP so it's an internal war.

the only thing's holding me back are 30p codec issues and pending releases. remember this doesn't have to be the cam I shoot the film on, I have 6 months to make that decision. And it's only the brain easily replaceable. I just need something for 6 months to play with at film school so the GH1 fits the bill nicely even with its crappy codec issues that can be worked around and there's always 30p mjpeg to 24p conversion.

but I'm curious about these obstacles I'm unaware I'm creating please explain?
 
Kholi said:
Pappas what lenses are you using with your MKii? Which one costs 100.00??
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You can get tons of M42 mounts for that. My M42 mounts are Vivitar 70's series 1. The Vivitar's have a strong front mount which I needed cause the weight of the different Anamorphic adapters.







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Anamorphic DSLR Lens Test Images... links:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1638289&postcount=97
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1637705&postcount=84

Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Pappas/573417404
Myspace:
http://www.Myspace.com/PappasArts

Arrfilms@hotmail.com
http://www.PappasArts.com
CONTACT VIA AOL INSTANT MESSENGER
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.
 
there's loads of good $100 lenses. I bought a minolta rokkor MC 50mm f/1.4 for $60 US. really nice bokeh up there with the zeiss IMO. unfortunately to use it on the MKII I have to use an adapter with glass that might degrade the image a bit but it might look really cool and soften the MKII a bit. Loads of very good cheap M42 lenses out there easily adaptable to the MKII same goes for the GH1 of-course. I've been putting together a very interesting collection of lenses and can't wait to try them all.
 
Oh okay, so you got some M42's and adapters with them. Gotcha.

Dude how come you're not showing some MKii footage of your own? You've been a huge proprietor of the camera and now you're selling Squig on it. Show this guy some raw footage already.

I'd like to see your footage with the anamorphic front adapters on your MKii.
 
I did say I was thinking of getting a D5000.
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I recently held one of those at Adorama and on the LCD at least it seemed that it did not showed as much jello. I might put a card next time I go and shoot some tests out of curiosity.
 
refresh my memory which anamorphic adapters are you using pappas?

I have an isco-54 an optex 16:9 and an iscorama anamorphic lens, I think it's a 50mm? but it's not marked and I haven't tried it yet. also got a 10mm isco c mount but I think it will vignette far to much even on the GH1
 
squig said:
I can get adapters for my nikon and M42 glass for almost nothing. --- issues that can be worked around and there's always 30p mjpeg to 24p conversion.
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So if your willing to use this work around, why not do it with the 5D and get the kick a$$ image that GH1 will not deliver.

So you do have the lenses. So why the F about how you needed to spend over 3200 for the 5D. Your not making sense Sir...... You have every thing you need except the Nikon or m42 to Canon adapters. Those are dirt cheap..


So what's your issue to make the leap.....?






Michael Pappas
http://www.pbase.com/Arrfilms


Anamorphic DSLR Lens Test Images... links:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1638289&postcount=97
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1637705&postcount=84

Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Pappas/573417404
Myspace:
http://www.Myspace.com/PappasArts

Arrfilms@hotmail.com
http://www.PappasArts.com
CONTACT VIA AOL INSTANT MESSENGER
AT { PAPPASARTS2 }

.
 
John Caballero said:
I recently held one of those at Adorama and on the LCD at least it seemed that it did not showed as much jello. I might put a card next time I go and shoot some tests out of curiosity.
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It has exactly the same internals as the D90 so jello should be identical, it's just a bit lighter and has different body/ext controls. essentially a cheaper to produce D90
 
squig said:
refresh my memory which anamorphic adapters are you using pappas?

I have an isco-54 an optex 16:9 and an iscorama anamorphic lens, I think it's a 50mm? but it's not marked and I haven't tried it yet. also got a 10mm isco c mount but I think it will vignette far to much even on the GH1
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Yeah I'm seriously interested in that as well. What Pappas is using with his MKii and Anamorphics.

Footage!?!?!? I wanna see.
 
PappasArts said:
So if your willing to use this work around, why not do it with the 5D and get the kick a$$ image that GH1 will not deliver.

So you do have the lenses. So why the F about how you needed to spend over 3200 for the 5D. Your not making sense Sir...... You have every thing you need except the Nikon or m42 to Canon adapters. Those are dirt cheap..


So what's your issue to make the leap.....?

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Not meaning to speak for Squig, but in general I see a LOT of MKii proponents on several boards but oddly enough, most don't even own one and it's been out for several months.

There are a few here pitching the MKii as if they've been personally shooting with one and have invested the money, but really haven't. We should be asking those same people trying to sell others on the MKii the same question:

If it's so bad ass, why do they not own one after so many months??
 
PappasArts said:
So if your willing to use this work around, why not do it with the 5D and get the kick a$$ image that GH1 will not deliver.

So you do have the lenses. So why the F about how you needed to spend over 3200 for the 5D. Your not making sense Sir...... You have every thing you need except the Nikon or m42 to Canon adapters. Those are dirt cheap..


So what's your issue to make the leap.....?
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best price on the MKII is $3750 AUD. with exchange rates, GST and shipping it's about the same out of the US or HK.

Well 24p is probably the main thing, sure I can do it in post but it will take forever on my macbook pro. I know it's coming but until you have it you have nothing. The other thing is you take more of a resale hit on more expensive kit and the D300s is not far away. but there is also something in my head that is holding me back that I haven't quite figured out yet. I guess the versatility of the GH1 has something to do with it.
 
No single person is gonna sell me on anything. I've been following every DSLR since they came out and I think I know pretty much everything about their pitfalls and advantages. But at the end of the day you're not really gonna know until you pick one up and shoot with it. If I didn't buy a D90 I might still be here scratching my head thinking about whether it's for me......which is what I'm doing right now lol. Come wednesday next week I'll have a new DSLR and if it's not for me I'll sell it and get another one. but I won't sell it until I replace it! I've learnt that lesson
 
squig said:
No single person is gonna sell me on anything. I've been following every DSLR since they came out and I think I know pretty much everything about their pitfalls and advantages. But at the end of the day you're not really gonna know until you pick one up and shoot with it. If I didn't buy a D90 I might still be here scratching my head thinking about whether it's for me......which is what I'm doing right now lol. Come wednesday next week I'll have a new DSLR and if it's not for me I'll sell it and get another one. but I won't sell it until I replace it! I've learnt that lesson
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squig said:
What's the bit-rate on the T1i? H.264? can't find any info on it anywhere
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And they call me the ADD/SCHIZO.

LoL. Just pokin' at you.
 
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