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Panasonic's new AG-CX350 camcorder
- Thread starter nutmegger
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Barry_Green
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No date has been given recently. It should be fairly soon, but we won't know the date until it's released.
Mitch Gross
Veteran
The problem with publishing a date is that if we were to encounter a problem during testing then everyone would complain about us missing our date. So better not to say anything until it’s pretty much ready to go. It will be made available as soon as we can.
Bassman2003
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I hope they included 720p60 25Mbps as was on the PX270. I know 720p seems out of date but I have shot tons of work for Blu-DVD delivery in this format. The file size and quality are a great mix.
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I hope they included 720p60 25Mbps as was on the PX270. I know 720p seems out of date but I have shot tons of work for Blu-DVD delivery in this format. The file size and quality are a great mix.
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Mitch Gross
Veteran
There’s a new firmware update available for the CX350. One of the items it addresses is the use of external zoom controllers. I have not tested it and don’t know details, but thought I’d share.
https://eww.pass.panasonic.co.jp/pro-av/support/content/download/EN/ep2main/soft/upgcx350_e.htm
https://eww.pass.panasonic.co.jp/pro-av/support/content/download/EN/ep2main/soft/upgcx350_e.htm
GGeoff Addis
Member
CX350 Scene Files
CX350 Scene Files
Hi Mitch, I'm trying to load your additional scene file sas per the instruction, but I always get the message LOAD NG. There is no 'CX350 BG' indicated on position 2 of the file card load display although I do see the date of the downloaded file. Have tried numerous times with same result.
My firmware is version 1.11.00.0.00, is this the latest? I'm asking this as the Manfrotto LANC zoom control does not appear to work.
Thanks in advance
CX350 Scene Files
There’s a new firmware update available for the CX350. One of the items it addresses is the use of external zoom controllers. I have not tested it and don’t know details, but thought I’d share.
https://eww.pass.panasonic.co.jp/pro-av/support/content/download/EN/ep2main/soft/upgcx350_e.htm
Hi Mitch, I'm trying to load your additional scene file sas per the instruction, but I always get the message LOAD NG. There is no 'CX350 BG' indicated on position 2 of the file card load display although I do see the date of the downloaded file. Have tried numerous times with same result.
My firmware is version 1.11.00.0.00, is this the latest? I'm asking this as the Manfrotto LANC zoom control does not appear to work.
Thanks in advance
Mitch Gross
Veteran
Hi Mitch, I'm trying to load your additional scene file sas per the instruction, but I always get the message LOAD NG. There is no 'CX350 BG' indicated on position 2 of the file card load display although I do see the date of the downloaded file. Have tried numerous times with same result.
My firmware is version 1.11.00.0.00, is this the latest? I'm asking this as the Manfrotto LANC zoom control does not appear to work.
Thanks in advance
As I’m not the Product Manager for this model I don’t really know such specifics. I suggest you contact Panasonic Support and our engineers can assist you directly. Contact info on our website.
My firmware is version 1.11.00.0.00, is this the latest? I'm asking this as the Manfrotto LANC zoom control does not appear to work.
That should be the latest firmware version. Which Manfrotto zoom controller model do you have? I am able to use a Manfrotto LANC controller with that firmware version and it seems to work fine.
Keep in mind that some of the zoom controllers are switchable between the LANC and Panasonic zoom control protocols. For the CX350, this switch should be set to the LANC setting (not the Panasonic setting), since the CX350 uses the LANC protocol. The Panasonic setting is only compatible with earlier Panasonic camcorders like the DVX200, UX180 and earlier cameras.
GGeoff Addis
Member
That should be the latest firmware version. Which Manfrotto zoom controller model do you have? I am able to use a Manfrotto LANC controller with that firmware version and it seems to work fine.
Keep in mind that some of the zoom controllers are switchable between the LANC and Panasonic zoom control protocols. For the CX350, this switch should be set to the LANC setting (not the Panasonic setting), since the CX350 uses the LANC protocol. The Panasonic setting is only compatible with earlier Panasonic camcorders like the DVX200, UX180 and earlier cameras.
Thanks Mitch and Dave, I'll follow your advice. The Manfrotto zoom controls model 523Pro.
Bassman2003
Veteran
My guess would be that your zoom controller being made for Canon and Sony LANC might still not be compatible with Panasonic cameras. I have been using Panasonic cameras for a while so all of my controllers are meant for Panasonic cameras. Not much info out there so you might try to get your hands on some other controllers to test out.
Mitch Gross
Veteran
GGeoff Addis
Member
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I think that you have hit the nail on the head, the controller was for a Sony camera. I'm still getting my head around the camera's persona having had it for just 2 days. Very pleased with image quality!
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My guess would be that your zoom controller being made for Canon and Sony LANC might still not be compatible with Panasonic cameras. I have been using Panasonic cameras for a while so all of my controllers are meant for Panasonic cameras. Not much info out there so you might try to get your hands on some other controllers to test out.
I think that you have hit the nail on the head, the controller was for a Sony camera. I'm still getting my head around the camera's persona having had it for just 2 days. Very pleased with image quality!
Thanks Mitch and Dave, I'll follow your advice. The Manfrotto zoom controls model 523Pro.
While I haven't used the Manfrotto 523Pro model specifically, I have used the Manfrotto 522 (predecessor to the 523Pro) and Manfrotto MVR901EPLA (successor to the 523Pro) and both worked with the CX350. The zoom rocker, start/stop record button, and even the focus control worked on both controllers (the camera needed to be in manual focus mode for the focus controls to work). Only the power on/off buttons and button for switching between auto and manual focus on the remotes did not work (I believe the camera does not implement these commands, as they have not worked on other remotes I have tried either).
When the Manfrotto remote is connected, the LED on the zoom remote should be on (this indicates the remote is getting power from the camera). When you start recording the LED on the remote will blink during recording. On the 523Pro you could try experimenting with the zoom speed limit buttons (marked I, II, and III) which should affect the maximum speed of the zoom rocker. I think there are also some other programmable settings on this model, but it's been a while since I've used it so I don't remember all of the details.
Note that as far as I can tell, there is nothing specific to Panasonic in the LANC implementation in the CX350. It seems to respond to the exact same LANC commands for zoom, focus, iris, start/stop recording as most Sony and Canon cameras do.
I’ve acquired a CX350 and an S1 and will be using them on the same projects. I have several questions related to calibrating these two cameras for color match.
Has anyone done any scene file work that might help pull these two cameras together?
Are there any suggestions for best settings for both with post production in mind?
Suggestions for best settings for a burned in look that would be best for matching the two cams (and a DJI P4P)?
What tools and methods/procedures would be required for beginning to learn to do this myself?
Oh, and I also would like to calibrate the CX350 to match the UX90.
Thanks for any help.
P.S. I believe that the CX350 and the S1 could be an ideal combination for the type of run n gun doc-style corporate shooting I do, much of which has a lot of extended fast action, indoor and outdoor sports (including water sports and boating), and large groups.
Has anyone done any scene file work that might help pull these two cameras together?
Are there any suggestions for best settings for both with post production in mind?
Suggestions for best settings for a burned in look that would be best for matching the two cams (and a DJI P4P)?
What tools and methods/procedures would be required for beginning to learn to do this myself?
Oh, and I also would like to calibrate the CX350 to match the UX90.
Thanks for any help.
P.S. I believe that the CX350 and the S1 could be an ideal combination for the type of run n gun doc-style corporate shooting I do, much of which has a lot of extended fast action, indoor and outdoor sports (including water sports and boating), and large groups.
Bassman2003
Veteran
The way I have always done is get a calibrated video monitor, some color charts, high CRI lighting (tungsten being the best) and start adjusting the color matrix. The more you do it, the more you will know from a firsthand experience. You will evolve over time, but you have to start somewhere. If not that is fine too but you will be beholden to others making things for you.
I’ve acquired a CX350 and an S1 and will be using them on the same projects. I have several questions related to calibrating these two cameras for color match.
Has anyone done any scene file work that might help pull these two cameras together?
Are there any suggestions for best settings for both with post production in mind?
Suggestions for best settings for a burned in look that would be best for matching the two cams (and a DJI P4P)?
I'm not sure about the matching the CX350 to the S1 specifically, but I did look a little bit into matching the CX350 to the GH5/GH5s as I mentioned in this post:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthrea...corder&p=1986792684&highlight=#post1986792684
Overall I found the GH5 to be a bit more saturated and contrasty than most of the CX350 picture profiles by default and I wouldn't be surprised if the situation were similar with the S1. This meant that the Natural or Cinelike-D profiles on the still camera would be a better starting point. If you want to shoot log, then HLG is pretty much your only option since the CX350 doesn't have a V-Log profile.
The suggestion of getting a good external monitor (with vectorscopes) and color charts (ideally one of the video oriented color charts with video color primaries) is definitely the way to go. Since the CX350 has way more image controls than the S1, start with a picture profile you like on the S1 and try to match the CX350 to that.
The way I have always done is get a calibrated video monitor, some color charts, high CRI lighting (tungsten being the best) and start adjusting the color matrix. The more you do it, the more you will know from a firsthand experience. You will evolve over time, but you have to start somewhere. If not that is fine too but you will be beholden to others making things for you.
Hey, I have no compunction about being beholden to people on this board. That ship sailed years ago.
I'm not sure about the matching the CX350 to the S1 specifically, but I did look a little bit into matching the CX350 to the GH5/GH5s as I mentioned in this post:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthrea...corder&p=1986792684&highlight=#post1986792684
Overall I found the GH5 to be a bit more saturated and contrasty than most of the CX350 picture profiles by default and I wouldn't be surprised if the situation were similar with the S1. This meant that the Natural or Cinelike-D profiles on the still camera would be a better starting point. If you want to shoot log, then HLG is pretty much your only option since the CX350 doesn't have a V-Log profile.
The suggestion of getting a good external monitor (with vectorscopes) and color charts (ideally one of the video oriented color charts with video color primaries) is definitely the way to go. Since the CX350 has way more image controls than the S1, start with a picture profile you like on the S1 and try to match the CX350 to that.
Thank you both for your great suggestions. (See? I’m beholden already!) I ordered some charts from the nice folks at DSC Labs and will try my hand with the scope.
I’ll let you know if I come up with anything useful.