Panasonic's new AG-CX350 camcorder

nutmegger said:
I agree with the comment regarding the sharpness of the CX350 lens. If the Canon XF705 was $2K less in price, I would have bought the XF705.

Also, has anyone else noticed when shooting at 60fps the shutter speed of 1/60 is not available? Your choices are 1/30, 1/100, or 1/120 but not 1/60. When shooting at 24fps or 30fps the shutter speed of 1/60 is available.
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When press the shutter button, it toggles between the shutter speed control and "off." At 60fps, off is 1/60. At 30fps, off is 1/30.

*unless we're talking about something different?

(And you can set the degrees of shutter in Scene File, and change your shutter speed to the degree setting. Barry, as always, has the best concise answer.)
 
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The cx350 is at my budget limit, I am wanting a camera that can shoot outdoor documentaries and also more creative cinema narrative shorts. I did notice that the cx350 has a "cinema filmic look 24frames" Does that really produce a cinema look? Any examples out there. A good rep at BnH is making me think more about the Blk Mag 4 or 6K, comments please for the better choice to do both cinema and interviews etc. Thanks
 
The CX350 is a video camera. It can not blur the background like a large sensor camera. With its aperture range, it is about equal to a 2/3" broadcast camera. Very useful for a lot of shoots, but it is not a cinema camera.

On the other hand, cinema cameras are not as versatile as these types of video cameras. So your decision should be around best tool for the job and the types of shooting you will be doing.
 
I’ve tested cx350 and ux90 that’s similar to dvx200. Good news it was around 2 stops brighter bad news it’s double the price. I wish Panasonic would offer a lower model with the same backside illuminated sensor without the high features. I can’t justify $3500 for modest improvement in light sensitivity.
 
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Hey Peter, thx for the quick reply! Don't understand what you are saying. So you tested the CX350 and Ux90 against the dvx200? The ux90 and CX350 were 2 stops brighter than the dvx200? Sorry for not understanding your reply
 
The CX350 had roughly 2 stop more light than my UX90. I would expect a similar difference with the dvx200. Then it comes down to how much money are you willing to spend for that improvement.
 
2 stops more lights is a lot. I know from reading in older topics the ux90 was less sensitive than they ux180.
I Found the topic back where Barry green said they ux180 was on pair with dvx200 in low light and that they ux180 was 1 stop better than ux90.

So the cx350 Will be 1 stop Faster against the dvx200
ISO 2000 is about the max good image i have on my dvx200 so that would be iso4000 on cx350

On the other hand i don't do live streaming so that's the Selling Point for the cx350. I better wait for a updated dvx200 or new Panasonic camcorder
 
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25p CHOPPY EFFECT

25p CHOPPY EFFECT

Hello guys and girls :love4:

I need a little help ... I have two cx 350 cameras and the problem is the following .. I shoot everything in 4K 50p and everything is fine when panning and tilting and the picture is smooth as milk :thumbsup: ... when I want to shoot in 25p 2K or 4K, pictures is choppy and flickers when panning and tilting even though the shutter is 1/60 (I'm in Europe, so my sys is 50HZ), if the shutter button is off then it is basically 1/50 ... I tried to increase the shutter speed to 1/100 and more but the picture is the same ... it can be seen on the LCD, I don't have to look at the computer monitor to see it ... the picture is choppy in, Premiere pro and in any player .... as it is on the LCD, so it is on the computer - the same. The system is win 10, the latest version, premiere pro also, latest drivers ... ect ... I have a strong machine, but shooting in 25p is a real nightmare for watching, ha, ha, ha .... maybe too fast panning (I know the 7sec rule for the frame), but I noticed that even when slower panning the same choppy effect occurs, simply, the image is not as good as in 50p. When I shoot in 50p, I can throw the camera up :D, panning at the highest possible speed, left, right, up and down, whatever, and the image is fluid ..... .. who knows maybe I have a bad setup for 25p .....

I watched various shots in 23.97, 24, 25 and 30p of various cameras and the picture is cinematic and fluid as if it was taken in 50p or 60p, (I know I can't get a cinematic look on this camera) .... but with me, it it just doesn't work ...
... why does it happen in 25p and not in 50p ... synchroscan is 180 degrees .. both cameras came with 4.03 firmware and I installed the firmware v .5 on both ...
 
Why don't you always shoot 50P . You can always get the 25P "look" by putting the 50P file on a 25P timeline in most NLE's. The NLE will just take every other frame. Try and see what that looks like. If it still looks juddery you are likely panning too fast.
 
This is not a camera issue. It is because you have chosen a slow frame rate (25p) and the camera movement goes faster than the frames can refresh (go by). Filming in 24p or 25p is very different than filming in 50p/60p. You can now embark on your journey to learn about the differences! Goggle, YouTube, Movies and TV are your friends.
 
davedv said:
While I haven't used the Manfrotto 523Pro model specifically, I have used the Manfrotto 522 (predecessor to the 523Pro) and Manfrotto MVR901EPLA (successor to the 523Pro) and both worked with the CX350. The zoom rocker, start/stop record button, and even the focus control worked on both controllers (the camera needed to be in manual focus mode for the focus controls to work). Only the power on/off buttons and button for switching between auto and manual focus on the remotes did not work (I believe the camera does not implement these commands, as they have not worked on other remotes I have tried either).

When the Manfrotto remote is connected, the LED on the zoom remote should be on (this indicates the remote is getting power from the camera). When you start recording the LED on the remote will blink during recording. On the 523Pro you could try experimenting with the zoom speed limit buttons (marked I, II, and III) which should affect the maximum speed of the zoom rocker. I think there are also some other programmable settings on this model, but it's been a while since I've used it so I don't remember all of the details.

Note that as far as I can tell, there is nothing specific to Panasonic in the LANC implementation in the CX350. It seems to respond to the exact same LANC commands for zoom, focus, iris, start/stop recording as most Sony and Canon cameras do.
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How smooth is the zoom control? I am planning to buy the MVR901EPLA for the CX350 and I need very smooth zooming. The knob which sets the zoom speed functions with the cx350 as well?
Thanks!
 
You can also try a remote from DigiPin:
http://digipin13.hr/en/
I use one for my DVX200. Works perfect, much better than the Varizoom. I know the DVX uses the analog control, but the LANC version is doing an excellentjob for Canon, Sony, Black Magic, and newly for Panasonic.
Try it. It's near you. Good luck!
Jack
 
bumbafilm said:
How smooth is the zoom control? I am planning to buy the MVR901EPLA for the CX350 and I need very smooth zooming. The knob which sets the zoom speed functions with the cx350 as well?
Thanks!
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Sadly you'll find all these camera zoom ability to be lacking and connecting lanc remote only makes it worse. I use Varizoom Rock controllers which are expensive and well regarded but I still find them lacking.

All these type of cameras work the same way there are 3 motor speeds slow, medium, fast. It's difficult to transition between them and gradually start and stop. Your results will vary based on the situation. For example, if you're doing an interview and you want to slowly pull back, that's easy. But if you're filming a sporting or staged event where you're far from the subject and you need quick smooth zooms you'll be frustrated. In my experience only the expensive eng cameras deliver truly smooth zoom results but they're $10k+
 
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Although many of them do have limited speeds, the Canon G60 has a 1-16 scale.

When set to 1, the zoom takes over a minute to move from the wide to the tight end (or vice-versa), but I think you can even make it move slower in the overall speed settings.

And at the 16 setting, it performs like a crash zoom. Instant 1-second or so crash.

Thought this was worth mentioning as it's a highly desirable feature in this relatively newer camera (and it's probably in some of their others announced with it and after).
 
Most cameras can set the speed in the menu, the problem is their lack of smooth speed ramping while zooming. So if you set it really slow you will get very smooth zooms like an interview, but you can't take a minute to complete a zoom for action related work. You need the ability to smoothly and quickly ramp up and then ramp down and that's where these cameras fail. It's similar to tripod head panning. Cheap heads are ok close up or during a pan but when you try to ramp at the beginning and end you'll notice.
 
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