Panasonic Removable Lens Four Thirds HD AVCHD Camera
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has anyone been able to convert a clip to something more suited for grading and tried pushing it?
Consumer LCD 1920 x 1200 full screen. Below a print screen .JPG 1:1
Not super sharp but for Vimeo and 17Mbps this is sharper than I though it would be!
Consumer LCD 1920 x 1200 full screen. Below a print screen .JPG 1:1
Not super sharp but for Vimeo and 17Mbps this is sharper than I though it would be!
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The_Happy_Haole
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Please excuse my naivete......
Are there lenses that are 'native' to this camera? & if so, then what's wrong with them? It looks like this adapter is needed.
plasmasmp
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You can actually push Barry's clip quite a bit. Sure there are some compression artifacts, but I blurred the chroma, pulled out some of the blue and pushed the exposure in the general area of her face a little over 1 stop. I think it looks pretty nice, can't wait to play with more clips at ISO100
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squig
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yes panasonic has some micro 4/3 lenses. they're a bit slow.
the panasonic adapter allows you to mount 4/3 lenses. here's a compatibility list-
http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/dsc/connect/g1.html
the panasonic adapter allows you to mount 4/3 lenses. here's a compatibility list-
http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/dsc/connect/g1.html
Nektonic
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Vimeo clip from Barry's footage looked pretty darn good to me. I think this camera will be a good one for films and should be more than sufficient for DVD and web distribution.
One question, does anybody know if there is a 1/48 shutter? Or what the shutter speed range is? Seems like everything else we need is in the GH1. The only other thing is to confirm what the exact crop factor is for some Nikon and Canon lenses.
Nikon still has a possible D400, but my gut tells me that the GH1 will be the one. And for the near future, with the new more affordable P2 card NAB announcement and the GH1, Panasonic has a chance to really take the prosumer market by storm with an interchangeable lens HD camera. Until then, the GH1 can't get here fast enough.
One question, does anybody know if there is a 1/48 shutter? Or what the shutter speed range is? Seems like everything else we need is in the GH1. The only other thing is to confirm what the exact crop factor is for some Nikon and Canon lenses.
Nikon still has a possible D400, but my gut tells me that the GH1 will be the one. And for the near future, with the new more affordable P2 card NAB announcement and the GH1, Panasonic has a chance to really take the prosumer market by storm with an interchangeable lens HD camera. Until then, the GH1 can't get here fast enough.
Disclaimer: I did not read the whole thread, it is LONG. So if someone can take the time to read this post and help me out I'd really appreciate it.
Very good questions. I'd love to hear the answers to these together with hearing/seeing how sensitive it can be for available light.
Also, while the D400 may end up giving us more sensitivity I doubt they will give us better compression. Unless they give us a higher bit rate. One thing they won't do for sure is give us the flip screen, which I lust so much.
For a B-camera or an "all in one portable pocket rocket" all we'd need is clean ISO500 and shutter control. Everything else is there and confirmed right?
Very good questions. I'd love to hear the answers to these together with hearing/seeing how sensitive it can be for available light.
Also, while the D400 may end up giving us more sensitivity I doubt they will give us better compression. Unless they give us a higher bit rate. One thing they won't do for sure is give us the flip screen, which I lust so much.
For a B-camera or an "all in one portable pocket rocket" all we'd need is clean ISO500 and shutter control. Everything else is there and confirmed right?
squig
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Nektonic
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As far as I know, everything else seems pretty much good to go besides seeing more footage sometime next week. That is the thing I'm looking forward to seeing the most, what Kholi and Hunter can do with the GH1 once they get their hands on the ones they ordered from Japan.
In the meantime I am going to begin amassing a list of all the accessories I'll need if I end up going with a GH1 in June.
So squig, how would you compare the aliasing to the D90's aliasing/macro blocking?
The camera comes with an f4 14-140mm (28-280 equiv) kit lens. Panasonic has also shipped a 14-45mm and 45-140mm lenses with the G1. These are all native micro-four thirds lenses.
Their roadmap includes a 20mm f1.7 "pancake" lens, a 45mm macro lens and a 7-14mm wide angle zoom.
This is a new platform so modern lenses for it are still being developed to fill out the range.
However, because this is a mirrorless design the flange back distance is much shorter than previous cameras, which means almost every SLR lens format can be adapted, and a whole lot of other lens types can be adapted as well. You can often use multiple adapters without loss of quality due to there being a lot of room to work with here.
The most popular adapters seem to be the M adapters that let you use Leica rangefinder lenses (which are similar in formfactor to these cameras) and Canon FD lenses (which are cheap and good.) I believe the adapter solution for FD is to get the Micro-four-thirds to four thirds adapter and then the four thirds to FD adapter.
For silent AF with OIS, and native control the kit lens and the lenses made for the G1 are the way to go.
If you need fast primes and ultimate optical quality, Leica glass (or voigtlander and other compatible brands) seems to be the way to go.
But people have been mounting everything from obscure Russian lenses from the 1960s to C mount 16mm movie camera lenses to regular old Nikon and Canon 35mm lenses. You have to watch the c mounts because some don't have enough coverage, and the 35mm SLR lenses are big and heavy.
But if you've got a lens collection already you can probably mount it on this camera.
And if you don't then you can build up a collection of the kinds of lenses you like.
I've heard the complaint that the 14-140 is a slow lens, but I've not found anything with that kind of zoom ratio that isn't also just as slow, or nearly as slow. Physics dictates optics to some extent.
Where they really have an opportunity to fill out the line is with relatively fast primes, and after the 20mm f1.7 comes out, I expect there will be more-- especially if Leica makes a micro-four thirds camera, and olympus can be expected to make one.
Put another way, find the optics that fit your needs and you can get an adapter for it.
Cameras improve every couple of years as the technology for sensors and CPUs and image processing software advances. But lenses last and are a big investment.
So, I think the right camera is the one that fits your lens investment, and this camera can be adapted to just about any lens investment.
For me the 14-140 f4 and he 20mm f1.7 will probably be all I'll likely need, but I expect to get an M adapter and maybe a leica screw adapter and just pick up primes in these two formats over time as I find ones I like.
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Very nice, a tad dark for my taste but it looks much better. Thank you for posting it!
Have you tried messing with it in very weird ways to see how far you can push before it falls apart?
I'd be very interested in seeing what you put in that list, if you don't mind sharing.
In my previous post I talk about how people are mounting all kinds of lenses to these cameras-- I say that because the G1 has been out for 8 or 9 months and people really have gone to town with experimentation. Its been quite impressive. The GH1 will take the same lenses as its essentially the same camera as far as lenses are concerned.
Also, I think the 7-14mm should be shipping today as well, but am not sure.
Also, I think the 7-14mm should be shipping today as well, but am not sure.
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Nektonic
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I'm sure I'm not the only one that has started a list of possible accessories for this thing.
For now though here are a few things:
I have a Varizoom Flow Pod, so I could already use that as a steadi rig and a monopod.
I've heard that Red Rock is supposedly working on developing their own DSLR shoulder mount package. So maybe I'll get that later on? The Zacuto Gunstock rig is awesome but a bit much for me right now.
And of course obvious things like an extra battery or two. We'll have to see how much juice this thing drinks up and how efficient the batteries are.
Also, check out Kholi's post on DSLR video rigs -- http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=168071
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Illya Friedman
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I spent more than an hour playing with/shooting with the GH1 on Tuesday. I can confirm that Panasonic's 60fps demo material looked fantastic.
I deleted all the material I shot as the product rep wasn't present and it would have been improper to keep it without permission. 1920x1080 24fps, looked fine. The room I was in was drab and the camera rendered that perfectly. I have some other images that can't be released shot in 1920x1080 which also look quite good.
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Illya Friedman
Hot Rod Cameras
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I deleted all the material I shot as the product rep wasn't present and it would have been improper to keep it without permission. 1920x1080 24fps, looked fine. The room I was in was drab and the camera rendered that perfectly. I have some other images that can't be released shot in 1920x1080 which also look quite good.
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Illya Friedman
Hot Rod Cameras
The Nuys, CA
Joe Shaw
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For anyone looking at workflow options, I just wanted to state again that the file can be dropped straight onto the timeline of Edius and it looks very good. Playback is not realtime on my laptop (didn't expect it to be) but you can convert it in the bin or you can use the free AVCHD converter tool from GV.
...the Youtube clips a trickling in, here's one of the better clips I just found.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMjH2MCxXwc
It's Motion JPEG but better than the 1st few posted. It gives one a better idea of the quality to be expected.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMjH2MCxXwc
It's Motion JPEG but better than the 1st few posted. It gives one a better idea of the quality to be expected.
