Panasonic Pancake Lens/Shoot35 Follow Focus

terra1

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ok i hope this is understandable :smile:

i was worried before i bought my Shoot35 follow focus that it might not work on the tiny pancake lens... it does work!
(photos are fliped because i took them on my imac webcam)


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i found that you have to keep the flexi gear pretty loose fitting as if its too tight it pinches the plastic focus ring on the lens and stops it turning.
because it doesnt take much effort to rotate the focus ring i dont think it will slip, if it does a put a flat rubber band around the focus ring and then install the flexi gear.
plastic on plastic = more likely to slip.
plastic on rubber on plastic = less likely to slip.
and rubber compresses slightly :smile:


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as you can see above when the follow focus is on the rails the gear cog is way off meshing with the flexi gear on the lens... no problem!

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front mounted gear cog

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bag of shims and tools for all the bolts on the follow focus and instructions/case.

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rear mounted gear cog (10 seconds to swap it about)


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as you can see in the pix above the gear teeth mesh neatly with the flexi gear on the lens.



i did have to mount the tripod baseplate a little further back as the turn screw that secures the follow focus on the rails was hitting it.

because of the infinite focus ring on the pancake lens it would be easy to turn the follow focus and the flexi gear red housing might hit the gear cog.

i would say that i could get the ff gear cog about 6mm closer to the cameras body without it hitting the dslr mount but i dont think any lens has a focus ring any closer to the body than this lens so iam happy.



my workflow for getting it to focus!

1. set it all up as above.

2. before turning on the camera i would turn the ff so the red housing on the flexi gear is pointing down to 6 oclock.

3. turn on the camera and set it to auto focus, focus on the object that will be nearest you in your shoot with the shutter button, then switch to manual focus.
this will give the red housing on the flexi gear the most travel for manually focusing into the distance.

this isnt a rock solid workflow but its how i got it to work for me.
also if you turn the camera off you will have to go through steps 2 and 3 every time you wanna shoot.


just now iam having too much fun using the follow focus on my cheap canon fd lenses.
thats where i know il use the follow focus most because they have a true manual focus.
the pancake lens has a wire focus i think so its a focus ring that the lens to focus, works ok but doesnt feel as natural as a real manual lens.


i hope this helps mate!

if anyone wants to comment or add info please do.
 
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Terra,

This is awesome!!! Many Thanks! Very helpful! I've got this lens and always worried how the FF would handle it.
BTW, did you get the rod support and base plate from shoot35?
 
yeah abolit i got the ff and dslr package, cost me £449 before tax :( its a quality item tho.

the only thing that isnt stock is the rails, they are from g-cinema/gini rigs.

personally i find it a bit much hastle using the pancake with a follow focus, it solves 1 problem yeah but gives you 2 back, dont let that put you off getting a ff tho.

i was using it with a smooth focus canon fd 28mm f2.8 today and it felt super usable.
 
Another great post, Terra.

By the way a Tootsie pop is a kind of sweet. A lollipop or maybe you call them suckers.

How is the resistance on the 20mm f1.7 compared to the canon fd's.

Is it noticeably more difficult to turn?

Thanks, mate
 
suckers! haha
over here a SUCKER would be anyone who bought anything from ZACUTO, just kidding!!! zacuto make some really good quality pro stuff at pro prices, i just find selling a foam insert for $285 a bit of a giggle. (check my other posts :smile: )

the pancake lens focus ring is really easy to turn, because its not actually having to push part of the lens out like with the FD lenses. (i think fd lenses do, i may be wrong)

i hear its manual focus by wire (computer tells it to focus to the position you have turned the focus ring) so it isn't as nice as a true manual focus lens in my opinion.

id say its easier to turn that my FD's but not as natural, my FD's kinda feel responsive as if its giving you info thru your fingertips if u know what i mean :smile:

PS: SO WHATS ARE TOTS?
 
Shoot35 FF looks great, but a little out of a lot of people's price ranges (myself included). I am looking to buy a FF and have always been curious about using it with my 20mm pancake.

Does anyone know if the D|Focus ver. 3 will work with the pancake? They seem to have it set up without any snap gear in this picture....

http://express35.com/shoulder-rig-lite/831/

Or has anyone had experience using the indisystems snap gear with the pancake lens?
 
Nice! Oh, btw, quick photobooth tip:
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thanks for the photobooth tip!
i was going to flip them in photoshop but i didnt think anyone would be upset if i left them :laugh:
il know for next time :thumbsup:


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yep thanks guys, it worked a treat... "CLASSIC"
awww now my fingers are the wrong way around... i ment to say peace hahaaaaa :thumbsup:

just kidding guys all in good jest :smile:
 
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u have all gears but the 360? pls get one. i was thinking about getting 360 for the panny pancake, but sample picture wud be nice to decide :)

is there any nickname for panny pancake? like pannypan? or panpan? doesnt it deserve to have a nice nick?
 
ive got flexi gears shown in the photos, the follow focus is being used on my CANON PRIME lenses (they dont rotate infinite so dont need a 360 lens gear.)

i dont plan on using the ff on the pancake lens much as its manual focus isnt the best and i like the little lens just how it is.

GH13 + PANCAKE = SMALL, LIGHT, SIMPLE & FUN.

and i dont think it needs a nick name, i think the "pancake" lens everyone is familiar with :smile: if it aint broke... dont try fix it!
 
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