EVA1: Panasonic AU-EVA1! Announcement and latest updates

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boo said:
Hi Mitch,

It's refreshing having you coming here and continue communicating with the community and being a voice for us as Jan Crittenden used to do. A few questions if you can currently answer:

Will it be a locking EF mount?

If Varicam colorimetry, why not the Varicam label?

Is 2K slow motion cropped?

is LCD viewable outdoors?

Will it be bundled with Barry Green's AU-EVA1 book? ;)
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Spring loaded pin lens mount.
Not a VariCam sensor.
Not sharing details on 2K mode at present.
LCD viewable outside.
I don't know if we've discussed this with Barry.
 
You know it's interesting.
I watch all of this from the sidelines.

I am a bottom feeder. I wait sometimes 2 or 3 years after a camera is released and pick one up at a great price. Long after most of the bugs have been worked out or will never be worked out (but at least I know them from a conscious decision making point of view).

My opinion: Most cameras out there today are totally capable of making great images and production values are almost always more important than cameras in terms of a final product.

So it is very curious to me. On the one hand "hitting the forums" seems like an important part of the communication for new cameras and on the other hand I see this back and forth, where speculation is both applauded and reproached at the same time.

While some people may be talking out of there butt (like self appointed experts), it just strikes me that unless things are clarified from the beginning, if a campaign of mystery is created in order to market a new product, this comes with the territory. It is always a double edged sword playing with people's expectations. Like all consumer companies, if a manufacturer wants to sell a product, the customer needs to fall in love with the fantasy of all that they are going to achieve IF they purchase this new product. One can hardly blame the consumer if they then invest themselves in the discussion in ways that are not always agreeable.

Anyhow, it's a good laugh watching from the sidelines. In the meantime I will continue to love my two F3's and might even pick up an F5 or F55 soon, as everyone rushes to the next greatest thing.
 
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Mitch Gross said:
A couple reasons. First, the VariCam sensor is very expensive to manufacture. It would have greatly raised the price of the camera. We were able to learn a bunch from the design & manufacture process on that sensor to develop the new 5.7K model. Second, the VariCam sensor uses a lot of power. We would have had to beef up the camera processing in order to handle the draw.
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This is what I was thinking as well. It would end up being just another Varicam LT, which we of course already have.
 
Mitch Gross said:
There's more than a ballpark range. We had specific targets, and have already hit them. But we believe that we will be able to exceed them in the tweaking process. So we don't want to say any numbers and be pigeonholed. If I said a spec was X now and later we got it to X+1, no one would remember and we'd be falsely labelled as X. So we purposefully did not state these numbers.
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I think if you announced it was spec X and then improved on it you'd only recieve a positive response from customers. I don't think it would be falsely labelled as the old spec.

Also, curious what constitutes a sensor being manufactured as a Varicam sensor?
 
hudbl said:
I think if you announced it was spec X and then improved on it you'd only recieve a positive response from customers. I don't think it would be falsely labelled as the old spec.

Also, curious what constitutes a sensor being manufactured as a Varicam sensor?
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Do people really just want to hear the Varicam sensor is just better? Or why the question to an obvious answer?

Or are you expecting a complete recipe to what the Varicam sensor is as opposed to what the EVA1 sensor will be? If that I doubt you get will your answer, for obvious reasons.

It`s a given this camera won't be as good as the Varicams and it's unrealistic to expect it would. I think Mitch has already said enough as to why it isn't a Varicam without actually saying the obvious. It won't be as good because it's just a fraction of the price.

What can be hoped is that they will get as close to the Varicam as possible. To expect it will match the Varicam is plain unrealistic. If it does, then great. But it's still unrealistic to expect it.
 
Mitch Gross said:
A couple reasons. First, the VariCam sensor is very expensive to manufacture. It would have greatly raised the price of the camera. We were able to learn a bunch from the design & manufacture process on that sensor to develop the new 5.7K model. Second, the VariCam sensor uses a lot of power. We would have had to beef up the camera processing in order to handle the draw.
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This is what I've been trying to explain to people particularly fellow LT owners asking if Panasonic is pulling a "SONY" on the LT. Having owned my fair share Panasonic Cameras I know there are a a lot of things in the Varicam LT that will never be in the EVA-1. Overall from the cameras I've owned there have usually been the AJ designation and the AG. The AG cameras sometimes had the same sensors as the AG (IE:AG AC-160 versus AJ PX-270 ) but the AJ always packed more Muscle. better codecs, P2 cards better processing and even different audio pre-amps. Even the physical build quality is always noticeably different. So yes the EVA-1 has a beautiful new sensor and will deliver great images in s strong codec (it's a Panasonic and where they've never disappointed is in delivering a robust codec that will stand up to anything.
but it won't be built like a Varicam or deliver everything the varicams Do. I do believe it will deliver a varicam Like image, but It certainly wont offer thing like in camera on set grading, or in camera VFR ramping like the big boy cameras.
I'm glad Panasonic is providing the unwashed the masses the chance to taste the DUAL ISO sex appeal of the S35 Varicam.

Anyways my point is this isn't a varicam and will not be a problem for the VAricam LT but a companion. I own a GH5 as a partner to my Varicam LT and I'm sure when I pick Up an EVA-1 my beloved GH5 be relegated to Car mount camera.
 
Competes withthe FS7

Competes withthe FS7

I think the EVA-1 competes with the FS7 not the FS5. yeah it's fs5 sized but it's delivering FS7 specs and codecs.
Time-code in and out. robust 4.2.2 codec. Raw out that will cost nothing. In codecs and The little we know of the cameras internal capabilities. it already out classed the FS5 and all the general public knows are Preliminary specification.
 
sean007davis said:
I think the EVA-1 competes with the FS7 not the FS5. yeah it's fs5 sized but it's delivering FS7 specs and codecs.
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How much time to wait for FS5 Mark II? I think that it's only camera with powerzoom, and good autofocus. EVA-1 doesn't have zoom and probably not good autofocus.
 
dcloud said:
Canon is the king of autofocus with their DPAF.
Everything else is fair game
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What do you think about Power Zoom Adapter PZ-E1 for Canon? I just watched this video :

The autofocus seems to have a lot of problems to focusing on the books. I don't think it's usable.
 
Danilo Del Tufo said:
What do you think about Power Zoom Adapter PZ-E1 for Canon? I just watched this video :

The autofocus seems to have a lot of problems to focusing on the books. I don't think it's usable.
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Not all lenses work but when they do, boy its amazing. Ive shot 70 200mm with af and it follow focuses like a boss.
 
Sttratos said:
Do people really just want to hear the Varicam sensor is just better? Or why the question to an obvious answer?

Or are you expecting a complete recipe to what the Varicam sensor is as opposed to what the EVA1 sensor will be? If that I doubt you get will your answer, for obvious reasons.

It`s a given this camera won't be as good as the Varicams and it's unrealistic to expect it would. I think Mitch has already said enough as to why it isn't a Varicam without actually saying the obvious. It won't be as good because it's just a fraction of the price.

What can be hoped is that they will get as close to the Varicam as possible. To expect it will match the Varicam is plain unrealistic. If it does, then great. But it's still unrealistic to expect it.
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It was a question for Mitch. I know the Varicam is better and I'm not expecting a list. I just wondered if there was a technical difference why it can't be called a varicam sensor or whether its just a marketing thing - keeping Varicam for the over 10k cameras.
 
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dcloud said:
Not all lenses work but when they do, boy its amazing. Ive shot 70 200mm with af and it follow focuses like a boss.
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If I've understood correctly there's just one lens that works with PZ-E1 zoom adapter, the 18-135 USM Nano Lens, but the results in the video are very problematic. Do you know some other solutions?
 
Mitch a few questions please.
First off I think Panasonic have done a great job with this camera,
and it will be top of my list when upgrading.

Will it have AF when using EF lenses and if so can you say anything about it ?
Will it have AF tracking ?
Can it power EF Zoom lens and will the handgrip control this feature?
Does it have it a touchscreen ?
Can you touch to focus?
Does it have wifi and Bluetooth and remote control via an app ?
What type of IS does it have ?


Great job Panasonic! I'm really looking forward to seeing the full feature list.
 
tillhavis said:
Mitch a few questions please....

Will it have AF when using EF lenses and if so can you say anything about it ?
Will it have AF tracking ?
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Can you touch to focus?
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What type of IS does it have ?
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A small group of people talked to Mitch outside the theater with these questions at CineGear. Mitch's answer regarding focus features was to not really answer the question. He could not say what was coming. Panasonic clearly had Mitch limited to a very specific set of features he was allowed to talk about. The rest will be revealed later.

Regarding IS - Mitch said it has electronic image stabilization. When asked to give more details, he was not allowed to provide further clarification.

What would have been fun is to have cornered the lead engineer, Taka, who was clearly very proud of his camera. Marketing and Sales people keep engineers away from customers because engineers are notorious for being honest and straightforward with answers. So we had a good opportunity to learn more if we could have talked to him. But I suspect Panasonic Marketing would have shielded Taka away before we had a chance. Did anyone talk to Taka?
 
Regarding the comments about 12V vs 7,4V and doing things the best possible way for signal processing - Mitch is correct about vocalizations coming out the wrong body orifice.

A system design picks one voltage optimized for the entire system. Then it adds power converters and regulators to make up the voltages it needs. In the case of a camera, it is likely that the vast majority of the system is running at 3.3V. While some circuits may operate at other voltages, these are generated internally as needed. Nothing in the camera is running directly off the battery as this voltage is too variable over the discharge cycle. So there are several power converters in the camera to provide the needed voltages.

Larger cameras use higher battery voltages because they need more power, which is easier to deal with at higher voltages and they can afford to deal with the bulk.

Phones do massive amounts of signal processing running on 3.6V batteries.
 
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