EVA1: Panasonic AU-EVA1! Announcement and latest updates

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I have plenty of work to do without writing a book. I wrote the user manuals for everything coming out of Convergent Design and that was enough to put me off "Manual Labor" forever.
 
dustylense said:
First they have to put a battery in it and fire it up. I haven't seen the camera powered on or even with a battery in the battery slot.
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Not sure about the EVA1 at CineGear, but the one at the Media Prod Show in London last month was a non functioning mock-up , that sit behind glass all the time... not sure if an actual pre-pro model has been publicly shown yet.
 
What I care about is image quality. I've hired a DP with an Alexa mini for my latest short. The image quality...amazing. The VariCam is superlative as well, at half the cost. Obviously a rental deal. I wish I could afford a $100k for an Arri...my wife would get the insurance money once they found my body somewhere...

The Eva will be about $15k with everything and with a cine lens or two. The cost can go up from there; external recorder, batteries, cards, etc etc.

I will wait until I see image quality. The S35 sensor is a good move. I have a Gh4 which has a nice image for what it costs. Maybe I can get away with spending $15k.
 
scottfs said:
The Eva will be about $15k with everything and with a cine lens or two. The cost can go up from there; external recorder, batteries, cards, etc etc.

I will wait until I see image quality. The S35 sensor is a good move. I have a Gh4 which has a nice image for what it costs. Maybe I can get away with spending $15k.
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You can get away with spending $8K if the camera is $7K, or $9K if it's $8K...not sure what you're budgeting for, but an extra $7K-$8K of accessories is not realistic for most people. But it sounds like you're cooking up something!
 
NorBro said:
You can get away with spending $8K if the camera is $7K, or $9K if it's $8K...not sure what you're budgeting for, but an extra $7K-$8K of accessories is not realistic for most people. But it sounds like you're cooking up something!
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Not realistic for most people or not realistic for most people buying a camera in this price class? I think we all know that you can easily spend more than the price of a camera(any camera) on its "accessories", whether it be glass, support or whatever. Especially glass. I'd have to go back to my original VariCam to have spent more on the body than glass (and that was only until I added a second lens). I'd even say that as cameras get less expensive, it's becoming even easier to 'out spend', so to speak, on accessories than camera bodies.
 
NorBro said:
You can get away with spending $8K if the camera is $7K, or $9K if it's $8K...not sure what you're budgeting for, but an extra $7K-$8K of accessories is not realistic for most people. But it sounds like you're cooking up something!
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Extra batteries, extra cards, a charger on set. EVF. Cage. Lenses, lenses and more lenses. Have you priced cinema lenses?

As I've said, all I really care about is picture quality. I'd own an Alexa if I won the lottery. Or a VariCam. They both have superlative image quality. There is no reason (except for money) not to have the same quality as Hollywood.
 
Mitch Gross said:
I'll be in Japan next week if that tells you anything.
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Ha ha. You get around. Now give us more clues. As you can tell, this camera has really charged up this crew.

All I want to know is image quality. I've used an Arri Alexa. I've seen the VariCam image (beautiful). Is the Eva going to be even in the same ballpark? That's what I want to know. I can adapt to any body or ergonomic. Image is why we shoot.
 
Run&Gun said:
Not realistic for most people or not realistic for most people buying a camera in this price class? I think we all know that you can easily spend more than the price of a camera(any camera) on its "accessories", whether it be glass, support or whatever. Especially glass. I'd have to go back to my original VariCam to have spent more on the body than glass (and that was only until I added a second lens). I'd even say that as cameras get less expensive, it's becoming even easier to 'out spend', so to speak, on accessories than camera bodies.
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Yes, we all know because it's an obvious fact. You can always spend more on accessories because they are never-ending, but that's not the same as what you can get away it. People always want more than what they truly need.

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Have you priced cinema lenses?
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For sure, but I could never justify buying real cinema lenses because my work isn't that important. I don't buy a new set of lenses for every camera I go through, but I hear you. I guess if someone is just starting out, it will be a big part of the overall investment.

If I win the lottery too, I'll join you with these:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1199496-REG/cooke_ckep_set10_minis4_1_cine_lens_set.html
 
That lens set is cheaper than I would have thought. But you know that one set of lenses never covers every shoot, you might need a set of vintage lenses, and of course you'd need a set of anamorphic lenses. And maybe just to be complete, a set of cinemod still lenses for the low priority or high risk shots (your everyday lens set).
 
lol...I use one Canon zoom and that will do the trick for the next 10 years.

I am not a "filmmaker"...those dreams are dead. I am a realist. And REAL cinema lenses are a sick investment, and I hope those buying them can really support it with their work and income. That's not my business.

But what kind of cinema lenses are you going to buy with $7K-$8K that is also reserved for other accessories? Two Xeens? A Canon 18-80mm? Those are not cinema lenses.

Maybe ONE CP.2? I hope you know what your favorite focal length is!

In this industry, the money never stops. Always something to buy. But my point is that many who will buy the EVA1 will already have lenses and maybe existing support gear and what not, so buying a few cards and a few batteries will not cost so much extra money.
 
It's all nomenclature but I'd always separate lenses from accessories when thinking about a camera purchase. It all adds up to a "package", but ultimately a set of accessories function to complete the camera itself, be it media, batteries, outboard monitors, brackets/cages etc. As Greg points out, you may want different lenses for different kinds of projects, and with the current environment of affordable crowdsharing apps and sites, renting gear may actually come back into favor for the indie/hobbyist user.

I have my eye on the EVA1, which would be the first non-DSLR camera purchase I've made in many years. I've been keeping my EF lens on ice that I assembled during the 5D era, thinking that there may just be an EF mount camera that comes along that will be worthwhile, and I'm feeling it on this one. That lens set incidentally consists of six Zeiss ZE's from 21 to 100 and three Tokina zooms covering 16 to 200mm--all chosen for their mechanical end stops in a time when there were few cine-style EF lenses. I bought an A7S with Metabones EF adaptor but find I very rarely bother with the EF lenses, since I have two E-mount native Sony lenses and it's just a lot easier to use them. So, I have been VERY close to selling this lens package last couple of years but now it looks like there may be a new lease on life for them!
 
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