EVA1: Panasonic AU-EVA1! Announcement and latest updates

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Mitch Gross said:
Feel free to ask me anything. I'll probably mostly reply "no comment," but feel free to ask.
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The camera as pictured placed on te shoulder would put the Evf on the forehead.

A major flaw of the fs7 is that the Evf lead is not long emough to allow a well balanced shoulder configuration with some long/heavy lenses especially with the deep chimney eye shade.

Would panny make a similar mistake?
At this point in the design cycle could such a flaw be rectified? Aka the Evf lead be extended to allow the user to place the efv where the want ie near the lens front element
 
I don't understand why Panasonic keep things about this camera secret? It makes no sense to make an announcement and withhold info from a customer perspective. Release in the fall and most things about the camera is set so just make it public!
 
You guys asking for an MFT sensor - remember that right now only SONY makes m43 sensors for Panasonic, and this sensor is a STILLS sensor.
No way I would pay $8K for a stills sensor in a cinema cam, maybe I would at $4K.
If Panasonic does what Sony and Canon already do, they'll put their best chip in a lower spec camera. Same sensor as the Varicam LT, but writing out to the same codec as the GH5 - some variant of H265. The same way that Sony did with the FS7 / FS5, the same that Canon did with the C300 to C100.
My guess is that this new Varicam family camera writes out to SD or Cfast 2, and will have a price tag of about $8K to $9K.
 
Good luck prying info from Mitch. That guy has a padlock on his lips. He won't tell me any more than he has told you in this thread...
 
morgan_moore said:
The camera as pictured placed on te shoulder would put the Evf on the forehead.

A major flaw of the fs7 is that the Evf lead is not long emough to allow a well balanced shoulder configuration with some long/heavy lenses especially with the deep chimney eye shade.

Would panny make a similar mistake?
At this point in the design cycle could such a flaw be rectified? Aka the Evf lead be extended to allow the user to place the efv where the want ie near the lens front element
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Not much in the way of a question here, is there?
 
Osslund said:
I don't understand why Panasonic keep things about this camera secret? It makes no sense to make an announcement and withhold info from a customer perspective. Release in the fall and most things about the camera is set so just make it public!
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Doesn't it make lots of sense? I don't know exactly but there would surely be many people who hold off on immediate purchases if they think something better is around the corner.

Personally I'm waiting several NABs til I see Zacuto's plasma light and redrock micro's EVF...
 
My Speculation:

The Varicam name is powerful. Panasonic will name this the Varicam Mini (in the vein of Alexa Mini).

It will not feature an M43 sensor or MFT mount, if nothing else only because of the nature of the industry and competition/perception. I think they will be wary to release an M43 sensor pro cinema camera due to sales and marketing (even though a video-geared, backlit m43 sensor in a pro body could be very appealing). The only possible (and unlikely) creative solution here would be a fascinating system that comes standard with an EF mount, but could be switched to an M43 mount and use a sensor crop (as previously much speculated for the GH5, and much like the varicam LT has an EF/PL mount swap option - this could be the lower end equivalent!). But... unlikely. Would be pretty cool though

I think we're looking at an S35 sensor w/EF mount w/Varicam LT specs minus dual ISO and using GH5 level codecs (perhaps a bit more robust... H265? 200mbps baseline in IPB?) . Obviously no LT style breakout control panel, and no simulatenous proxy recording.

I think they won't worry too much about cannibalizing the LT - it's been a while and that had it's initial run, and sales there haven't been stellar, so they see the opportunity to keep that offering diversified for a particular clientele base and offer something very competitve.

Price at either $5995 or $6495 depending on options, since it was mentioned initially as an FS5 competitor and not an FS7 competitor (though they may have been referring to weight over price... yet, I think regardless, Panny may want to come in pretty competitive on Sony here and offer something that beats out the FS7 *and* FS5).
 
rob norton said:
Doesn't it make lots of sense? I don't know exactly but there would surely be many people who hold off on immediate purchases if they think something better is around the corner.
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Yup, makes perfect sense to me:

GH5 is announced and released before NAB, build the hype, beat the NAB announcements, get sales.

NAB - announce a reason to hold off on your excitement for any competitor announcements, let people know they have more up their sleeves, but don't announce quite yet anything that could be a hold on the GH5 spotlight right now.

It's a good, well run play. They save the GH5 spotlight and avoid losing any momentum or interest to offerings from Sony/BMD/etc.

They have my attention. It should be a good fall... minus the fact that i need to invest in a bunch of Zeiss Milvus glass for my new S35 EF Panny camera... :dankk2:
 
filmguy123 said:
My Speculation:

The Varicam name is powerful. Panasonic will name this the Varicam Mini (in the vein of Alexa Mini).

It will not feature an M43 sensor or MFT mount, if nothing else only because of the nature of the industry and competition/perception. I think they will be wary to release an M43 sensor pro cinema camera due to sales and marketing (even though a video-geared, backlit m43 sensor in a pro body could be very appealing). The only possible (and unlikely) creative solution here would be a fascinating system that comes standard with an EF mount, but could be switched to an M43 mount and use a sensor crop (as previously much speculated for the GH5, and much like the varicam LT has an EF/PL mount swap option - this could be the lower end equivalent!). But... unlikely. Would be pretty cool though

I think we're looking at an S35 sensor w/EF mount w/Varicam LT specs minus dual ISO and using GH5 level codecs (perhaps a bit more robust... H265? 200mbps baseline in IPB?) . Obviously no LT style breakout control panel, and no simulatenous proxy recording.

I think they won't worry too much about cannibalizing the LT - it's been a while and that had it's initial run, and sales there haven't been stellar, so they see the opportunity to keep that offering diversified for a particular clientele base and offer something very competitve.

Price at either $5995 or $6495 depending on options, since it was mentioned initially as an FS5 competitor and not an FS7 competitor (though they may have been referring to weight over price... yet, I think regardless, Panny may want to come in pretty competitive on Sony here and offer something that beats out the FS7 *and* FS5).
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My feeling is the opposite.. M43 Gh5_XLR. Can a 'pro' product use SD cards?

Clearly there would seem to be two or three strategies..

1) Give sony a whipping with a $5k FS5 sized 'varicam' that outperforms the FS7 in every way.
2) Protect the Vari ' name and LT sales with a GH5_XLR
3) Make an intelligent radical camera that occupies a unique hole in the market MFT_Ultralight_Varicam.. the professional documentarians dream camera.

One may note that MGs tweets seem to include PannyProAV and not Varicam twitter handles.
 
I'd welcome a pro bodied M43 camera for sure! Especially if it had improved DR and another clean stop or two of ISO via a backlit M43 sensor engineered specifically toward video...

I just don't think Panny will do it with all the sensor size lust. It'd be like releasing a 1080p camera today. In many ways, that's all we need and the large micron pixels would probably give better IQ for many shots, but people want 4K.

So we'll see. Actually, I'd be happy either way.

A pro m43 camera with improved IQ + NDs + XLR etc. would be awesome for those of us who own an M43 lens set and GH5/GH4.
 
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