Panasonic AF101 Footage

by the way heres' interesting comparison. a forum member here i believe made this video a while back. very similar to af100 video. this is gh1 or possibly hacked gh13 i forget footage. watch af100 then this and compare

http://vimeo.com/7449911
 
NextWaveG said:
I'm sure it's been said before, but the AF100 looks to be what the Scarlet should have been. The average shooter doesn't need 3K+ RAW footage. We need HD with no aliasing, as little jello as possible, and lots of inputs and controls.

The biggest adjustment for me is wrapping my mind around the different lens structure. I know Nikon and Canon pretty well, but the micro 4/3 lenses are a new realm for me.
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You have zero worries with the 4/3 mount. Buy an adapter, mount up, shoot. If you are accustomed to FF35, your factor is 2; if your cup of tea is 35MM film or Red at 16x9, it's 1.2, Red at 16x9HD is 1.09 or so.

The 4/3 mount is one of the very best features of the AF100.

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo
 
Homunculus said:
by the way heres' interesting comparison. a forum member here i believe made this video a while back. very similar to af100 video. this is gh1 or possibly hacked gh13 i forget footage. watch af100 then this and compare

http://vimeo.com/7449911
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I'd really hold off comparing things until we get samples of footage from more controlled circumstances where the set-up, equipment, and lighting are a bit more equitable...

But that being said, I'm not at all surprised the $10,000.00+ camera package beats out the $~2000.00 camera package in this specific instance. :)
 
michael olson: I know but die hard gh13 users (like myself) need to SEE it to believe that there's anything out there that can dethrown the mighty gh13 ;-)

and so far I think I'm finally seeing it but have to see more af100 footage to be sure (like regular acvhd original)
 
Ticheli said:
You have zero worries with the 4/3 mount....
Leo
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I guess my main thing is learning all the 4/3 lenses out their. I'll use some of my Canon L glass, but I'll still want to pick up some 4/3 lenses, and there's a whole new library to learn.
 
Jan_Crittenden said:
Actually the interviewer kept asking questions that bought out statements that compare it to a DSLR, this camera is not marketed toward the DSLR market. It does feel very weird to be excited about an Audio input when we have had audio inputs for years, or uncompressed audio for that matter. So when you stand at a booth for 5 days talking about the camera and all of the questions you have answered are in relationship to how it differs from the DSLRs, it is natural that an interview held on the last day sounds this way.

However it is marketed toward people that have more money and greater expectations and needs. Someone that only has $2500 to spend on that DSLR is going to probably buy a $2500 DSLR. The person that buys the AF100 is more likely to have more money as they are coming to the camera from the HVX200, EX1, and other cameras at this level.

I trust that helps,

Jan
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This seems odd since most of the talk has been about all the functionality that the AF-100 offers over the HDSLR. Its not like the EX1 has a major problem with alaising and moire or record times and overheating which you and your hand picked testers have been praising.

Also, its not really a money issue in my opinion. I think there is big misconception that people who use HDSLR don't have enough funds to purchase a "better camera." In fact, the 5D has become an essential tool and people use it because they like the results even with its issues.
 
I think I posted this elsewhere, but I think we are starting to see the division of the "Sub 10K market" into the "$0.00-$4,000.00" bracket and the "$4,000.00-$10,000.00" bracket. There are definitely plenty of people out there with $3000 to spend who want a large format camera who will buy a DSLR because it's what they can get. And there are plenty of people out there (who may be currently using DSLRs) with $8000 to spend who will buy the AF-100. I just wonder if there are many who have $8000 and will continue to buy DSLR...and why...?

Marketing and all...it's a bit off topic. Sorry for that. Back to footage. :beer:
 
acoelho1 said:
This seems odd since most of the talk has been about all the functionality that the AF-100 offers over the HDSLR. Its not like the EX1 has a major problem with alaising and moire or record times and overheating which you and your hand picked testers have been praising.
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I think all the questions are arising because the only 4/3 video sensor has been in DSLRs that suffer from those problems. A lot of people asked for a "DSLR sensor in a video camera body". Obviously the AF100 is more than that, and that's what people are asking.
 
NextWaveG said:
I think all the questions are arising because the only 4/3 video sensor has been in DSLRs that suffer from those problems. A lot of people asked for a "DSLR sensor in a video camera body". Obviously the AF100 is more than that, and that's what people are asking.
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And in addition, the sensor is HUGE compared to the EX1. The issue is then putting all that huge sensor detail into 1920x1080, in general terms that what causes the issue. So it only relates to those small sensor cameras in a very minimal way.
 
I think if nothing else comes from the gh1 hack, it will cause panasonic to really up the game on the af100 or leave the af100 exposed when footage is placed beside each other. Not sure if they are willing to take the chance of a a camera costing 3 times more producing the same image. Would not be the best business move on panny's part. We shall see.
 
NextWaveG said:
the only 4/3 video sensor has been in DSLRs that suffer from those problems. {alaising and moire or record times and overheating}
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While the overall point is correct, I have to nitpick and point out that it's the Canon DSLRs that tend to suffer from moire, record time limits and overheating, and the Canon DSLRs do not have 4/3 sensors. The 4/3 sensor in the (U.S.) GH1 (which, yes, I know, isn't even technically a DSLR) was pretty much free of those three issues.

Mark
 
BitMaestro said:
While the overall point is correct, I have to nitpick and point out that it's the Canon DSLRs that tend to suffer from moire, record time limits and overheating, and the Canon DSLRs do not have 4/3 sensors. The 4/3 sensor in the (U.S.) GH1 (which, yes, I know, isn't even technically a DSLR) was pretty much free of those three issues.

Mark
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Yep. There was much less aliasing and moire and no overheating issues.
 
Okay, to be technical I should have said "large sensor" instead of 4/3 sensor...

I haven't worked with the GH1, only Canon and Nikon, but I thought the GH1 still had rolling shutter and aliasing issues.
 
NextWaveG said:
but I thought the GH1 still had rolling shutter and aliasing issues.
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The GH1 has comparable rolling shutter to the other cameras, yes. And all DSLRs have aliasing issues; it's pretty much mandatory if you're going to have a combination stills & video camera.

The AF100 has vastly improved rolling shutter performance and the elimination or extreme reduction of aliasing.
 
NextWaveG said:
I thought the GH1 still had rolling shutter and aliasing issues.
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You're right (again). My previous post was restricted to recording time limits, overheating and moire (this last of which, to be fair, the GH1 does have, but at least it's not purple like the Canon's is).

Darn, Barry beat me by three minutes - Mark
 
BitMaestro said:
You're right (again). My previous post was restricted to recording time limits, overheating and moire (this last of which, to be fair, the GH1 does have, but at least it's not purple like the Canon's is).

Darn, Barry beat me by three minutes - Mark
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It's more than just purple as well. :) Cause I see it all the time!
 
Finnegan said:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/14/panasonic-confirms-december-27th-ship-date-4-995-price-for-ag/

This article really sparked my interest because I was one of those guys that was banking on Scarlet coming out before the end of this year. And we all know how that ended up. How solid do we think this release date of December 27th is? I'm inclined to trust Panasonic and say that they'll make the deadline.
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You can bank on it. Just dont expect to definitely get one on the 27th. Im not sure what Pana mean when they say shipped on 27th either. Does that mean they are shipped to the suppliers on that day? or will the suppliers be supplied and can start shipping the on that day?
 
Finnegan said:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/14/panasonic-confirms-december-27th-ship-date-4-995-price-for-ag/

This article really sparked my interest because I was one of those guys that was banking on Scarlet coming out before the end of this year. And we all know how that ended up. How solid do we think this release date of December 27th is? I'm inclined to trust Panasonic and say that they'll make the deadline.
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Quite a lack of knowledge in the posts underneath that article. Which I guess I shouldn't be surprised at. Maybe Panasonic need to go on a drive to educate people. I'm torn between trying to inform everybody or just saying screw it and keeping the camera all to myself... ;)
 
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