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KWR

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My HVX200 will be shipped to me today and I need to decide on P2 cards. 4GB or 8GB, do I have other options today? I keep hearing about field HD's coming out. Also, if I use the P2 cards what is my best option for downloading the cards in the field? iPod? Is there a cheaper better solution?
 
panasonic announced Fire store HD for HVX200 its about 100gb storage and you can select your recording format on fs100
 
If you want something right now, an off-the-shelf 1394 Hard Drive should work fine. I know that Barry has been testing some. Also you can stream to a Laptop if you don't mind loosing your Meta-data.

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I'd like to get more detail from Barry regarding setting up and using the off-the-shelf 1394 Hard Drive. Will I need a battery and case?
 
Owen you are correct. A firewire drive alone can be used to turn the camera into host mode and then offload the P2 to the drive without a computer. In order to stream you'd need a laptop and apparntly need two system buses to handle the stream and captures to harddrives.


I am interested in some battery powered solution.. whether it's an ipod or firewire drive. To me.. if the battery lasts for a few cards then that would be fine for most things.. especially if there is a verify option. Loosing footage isn't an option.. so I'm sure that you get what ya pay for.. The p2store is nice.. .but too expensive for 60 gigs..


Justyn
 
Ah I see now. I mis-read the original post, thinking KWR was seeking an alternative to P2.

I agree -- verify is a MUST.
 
As far as I'm concerned, P2 is the best thing about the camera. Get two cards when you buy it so that one can be offloaded while the other continues to record. Even if it is well insulated I wouldn't trust a hard drive in the field. Also, with P2 you are using the product the camera was designed around from the ground up.
 
Ok, now I'm confused. What does Justyn's statement mean? "In order to stream you'd need a laptop and apparntly need two system buses to handle the stream and captures to harddrives."

So I can't use a regular laptop with firewire to capture using Avid Express Pro HD?
 
pccross said:
Ok, now I'm confused. What does Justyn's statement mean? "In order to stream you'd need a laptop and apparntly need two system buses to handle the stream and captures to harddrives."

So I can't use a regular laptop with firewire to capture using Avid Express Pro HD?
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If you have a single firewire bus laptop, such as the PowerBook Macs, and I suspect all PC laptops, you are sharing that bus with camera and external firewire hard drive.

That's alot of throughput and can lead to DFs.

One solution is to create a second firewire bus by adding a Cardbus firewire card.

Attach the camera to that bus, and the external firewire drive to the second. Capture to the second.

Or drop a 7200 rpm 2.5-inch drive the the PB, and try capturing to it.
 
Thanks, David.

Would this configuration work (I have a Dell laptop). Currently has no FW connections, but do have Firewire 2 PCMCIA card (2 ports), and of course USB ports. Could I stream from camera to Firewire port laptop, and then use external USB HDD attached to laptop?
 
Do you self a favor, don't mess with any thing but the P2 cards and the P2 Store. It's too complicated and risky with anything else. It's already a nightmare just backing up the p2 store files in the field. I mean the cables, batteries, power cords, drives, backup drives.. and did I mention cables.. And that 's just me trying to back up the P2 store.
 
can't you just put the P2 card into your pcmcia slot? isn't that what I read. that would seem to me to uncomplicate the process back to a laptop with a firewire drive attached.
 
I've been using (2) 4 GB cards and that has been working really well. If you're on the fence between (1) 8 GB card or settling for the 4GB cards, go with the 4.

If you only get one 8GB card, yes you can shoot on one card for a longer period of time, but while you are dumping that card to a drive/laptop/whatever, you can no longer shoot. With 2 4GB cards, you can dump one while shooting on the other and vice versa. Moneywise, 2 4GB cards are much cheaper than 1 8GB card by a few hundred dollars I think. You can use that saved money to buy some other gear for the camera.
 
Yes, and also you can very easily backup a 4GB card onto a DVD-R, using your Powerbook or whatever. 8GB cards will not fit onto a single-layer DVD.
 
The post guy at the Moviola seminar said he did not reccomend the FireStore. Didn't have time to say why. I wonder why this is?
 
J P said:
The post guy at the Moviola seminar said he did not reccomend the FireStore. Didn't have time to say why. I wonder why this is?
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Did anyone else go to the Moviola seminar? I'm just curious as to why this guy would say anything negative about the FS-100, and then not elaborate his reasons for saying so.
 
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