Open up a P2 card??

Why would you want to do that? The only possible thing you could accomplish is to ruin it.

And yes, I've seen inside one, and Spec-Comm posted pictures of what one looks like inside.
 
Well - I read that inside were standard SD cards and I wondered if you could upgrade them.

So for instance take an 8gb card and upgrade it for a low cost to a 64gb.

Any links to the pictures of the inside of a P2 - just for interest.
 
stay out of there. its not for you.
if there was a way to guerilla-out a card without destroying it. it would be WELL publicized.
 
NewHPXuser said:
Well - I read that inside were standard SD cards and I wondered if you could upgrade them.
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No. Not possible. Only the very earliest, earliest P2 cards had actual SD cards in them. All of the modern cards use direct memory, not SD cards.

And even with the earliest cards, there was no way to upgrade them.
 
i seem to recall reading somewhere that the controller inside the card is hardwired for a certain size/type of memory.

but again. if it was easy to crack. somebody would have pulled the curtain and exposed the wizard LONG before now
 
Here's the post of the P2 card we dissected:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=802528&postcount=38

This specimen was a 4-giger and the procedure itself was performed back in 2006. The viscera of the modern P2 card sub-species has undoubtedly developed differently from that of their ancestors, due to enviromental and other external factors. If you do get a chance to explore the insides of a current P2 card specimen, please be sure to share your findings here for your colleagues.

:thumbsup:

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Thanks so much for that Jasmine.

So from your pictures of that P2 card have I read correctly that the SD cards in that model COULD just be pulled out and higher capacity ones put in?

I just don't understand why some enterprising electronics company hasn't bought out a replacment P2 "card" at greatly reduced costs or better still a card that slots in to the P2 slot and allows connection outside the camera of some more standard memory cards. Even if it used internal memory for recording if speed was an issue and then automatically offloaded to the external SD card in the back ground.
 
So from your pictures of that P2 card have I read correctly that the SD cards in that model COULD just be pulled out and higher capacity ones put in?
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No. Re-read the discussion. See above:

wgzn said:
i seem to recall reading somewhere that the controller inside the card is hardwired for a certain size/type of memory.

but again. if it was easy to crack. somebody would have pulled the curtain and exposed the wizard LONG before now
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I just don't understand why some enterprising electronics company hasn't bought out a replacment P2 "card" at greatly reduced costs or better still a card that slots in to the P2 slot and allows connection outside the camera of some more standard memory cards. Even if it used internal memory for recording if speed was an issue and then automatically offloaded to the external SD card in the back ground.
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probably because the majority of the target market is perfectly accepting of the cost/functionality of the existing P2 situation.
and the potential for profit would likely not outweigh the r&d costs.

there are several companies that have produced (or still do) a variety of P2 workarounds. but from what ive seen, most of them are either as expensive or just kinda kludgey...

like weve said above. if it were as easy as so many people seem to think it is - somebody would have done it by now...

or maybe panasonic has a team of hitmen who take out anyone who produces a cheaper/better option before it gets to market ; )
 
Reason I ask - is the pictures clearly show SD cards in place and then removed.

So they whipped out a soldering iron inbetween those shots?
 
The cards were removable because that was the very first generation, and the P2 cards were very expensive, Panasonic wanted their service people to be able to repair them.

You cannot now or ever field-upgrade the SD cards. People tried and it just doesn't work. The controller inside is programmed to understand that specific size of card and no other.

After the 4GB (and I think 8GB) cards had been field-tested for a while, Panasonic found that they just don't fail. So in the 16GB and later cards they did away with the exchangeable SD card idea, and just started using the core memory components, which made the cards a lot less expensive per gigabyte. And on the "A" and now "E" series they found that by doing away with the SD cards, that freed up a lot of space inside, and now they could raid six or eight memory components together, instead of the four that they originally had with the SD cards, so "A" and "E" cards are substantially faster than the originals.
 
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