Larry Rutledge
Fest Master
I think this post from Jarred is pretty clear: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=450831&postcount=1
Official Definition of a Superhero
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J.R. Hudson
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Thank you Z B Brox for making what I assumed was clear.
There you have it fellas. Run with it.
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And Kevin ? I'll see if we can't nail down some fast guides
There you have it fellas. Run with it.
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And Kevin ? I'll see if we can't nail down some fast guides
Barry_S said:Please don't ask us, it's up to YOU to decide. Really. Don't ask me to get geekier than I already am. The term "hero" is thrown around a lot today, so you might want to put the bar a little higher lest you include the really helpful lady at your vet--or at least put a cape on her.
That's what threw me off. I know what a Superhero is, and what a hero is considered to be. There was no harm in wanting clarification.
Good to know that it's SUPERhero.. and not just, as John put it, good samaritan.
Larry Rutledge
Fest Master
I would think a more important question would be what constitutes a spoof? Since, I assume, the no copyright infringement rule is still in place I would think a clarification would be necessary on what is a spoof (of existing super hero lore) and what is copyright infringement (at least as defined by DVXFest).
Z B Brox said:
LoL.
As for what constitutes as--
I'd think that people here would be more inclined to create a totally new and unique superhero, anyway. I know I wouldn't bother with a superman clone, or son of superman storyline.
I really hope I can participate in this one.
WilderWorks
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For godsake, stop saying it's too broad! What's the problem with a little wiggle room? If you make the definition too restrictive, you reduce the number of angles people can come at this from. You gotta keep it at the level of genre, which is pretty permissive and vague, or you're gonna end up with 75 identical m ovies about a guy in a cape cornering a guy in a mask on a rooftop.
Larry Rutledge
Fest Master
Snap! You just gave my plot away...now I'll have to start overWilderWorks said:For godsake, stop saying it's too broad! What's the problem with a little wiggle room? If you make the definition too restrictive, you reduce the number of angles people can come at this from. You gotta keep it at the level of genre, which is pretty permissive and vague, or you're gonna end up with 75 identical m ovies about a guy in a cape cornering a guy in a mask on a rooftop.
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KevinPeeples
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Kholi said:
Yeah, I know that if I do enter Im not worried about my film, but just the good of the contest because of the description barry gave might let some people feel that they can get away with more than a true superhero. Was I the only one a little bit disappointed with some of the entries in the Scifest? If its SCI-FI, dont make a drama with only one verbal reference to an alien. Or dont have 2 people sitting in a coffee shop talking about life, and then 10 seconds before the end of the film you hear wind out the window and the character says "Oh, that must have been a superhero". The End. Come on....
Eh, I don't think our motive was to restrict it to the point where you couldn't come at the contest from your own angle.
I think we simply wanted to know if we were talking Superhero or Good Samaritan (best way to describe that, I think.)
Superhero isn't a genre, it's not a theme, either. It's more like a platform-- if I got that right.
Genre is Comedy, Action, etc. Which means you get to approach it anyway you want, so long as it has something to do with a Superhero.
I think we simply wanted to know if we were talking Superhero or Good Samaritan (best way to describe that, I think.)
Superhero isn't a genre, it's not a theme, either. It's more like a platform-- if I got that right.
Genre is Comedy, Action, etc. Which means you get to approach it anyway you want, so long as it has something to do with a Superhero.
KevinPeeples said:
Exactly. That's why I wanted to ask what was really going on in this contest. I think it's clear that people should be including a superhero in each film. That means, there should probably be an action sequence to showcase your character's ability or abilities.
It's also been said that special-power archetypes aren't the only thing to go on. Batman is considered a superhero, along with Cable from X-men and a few others. Gadget-guys should be fun, too.
WilderWorks--
There's a *lot* to be done in the realm of traditional superheroes. If you don't believe it, head to a Barnes and Noble and take a quick glance at "The Man Without Fear" by Frank Miller, "Kingdom Come", by Mark Waid, "Marvels" by Kurt Busiek, and "Watchmen" by Alan Moore. Four modern classics of the genre, all with very unique looks at what being a "superhero" can mean.
A superhero story can be science fiction, fantasy, crime noir, comedy, or straight up action. Trust me when I say movies, television, and even most monthly comics have scarcely scratched the surface of the depth this genre can take when it's at its best.
There's a *lot* to be done in the realm of traditional superheroes. If you don't believe it, head to a Barnes and Noble and take a quick glance at "The Man Without Fear" by Frank Miller, "Kingdom Come", by Mark Waid, "Marvels" by Kurt Busiek, and "Watchmen" by Alan Moore. Four modern classics of the genre, all with very unique looks at what being a "superhero" can mean.
A superhero story can be science fiction, fantasy, crime noir, comedy, or straight up action. Trust me when I say movies, television, and even most monthly comics have scarcely scratched the surface of the depth this genre can take when it's at its best.
They have always been lenient. People should stop gawking at "superheros" and just think of a cool script.
If you have a story about a really cool heroic person that does incredible things I'm sure it'll pass. If you have a guy who can cook waffles with his left buttcheek, just shoot it.
Hell put a diaper on your sister, a whisk in her hand and a pillow case on her back, and she becomes super sis!
It'll be fun!
If you have a story about a really cool heroic person that does incredible things I'm sure it'll pass. If you have a guy who can cook waffles with his left buttcheek, just shoot it.
Hell put a diaper on your sister, a whisk in her hand and a pillow case on her back, and she becomes super sis!
It'll be fun!
You guys are all on the right track. Superhero is correct, so sorry if my attempt at humor muddied the pond. Saving a group of kids and their cat from a burning building makes you a standard hero, but doing it 10 times in the space of 4 months along with raising someone's expectations that you'll show up--starts to move you into Superhero territory. A cape or the right costume usually gets you in the door despite the low admission price. Special powers used for good, a lab accident, and a spectacularly evil nemesis--move to the front of the line.
WilderWorks
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Superhero is certainly a sub-genre. Or perhaps a sub-sub-genre. It has its own conventions. Sort of like, there's the Crime Genre, and then, the sub-genre of the Caper-Gone-Wrong.
WilderWorks
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Z B Brox said:
It sounds like you're diagreeing with me, but in fact, you're agreeing with me. Alan Moore and Frank Miller would have never been published a generation ago, when the "rules" on the genre were more strict. As comic fans have broadened what they'll accept, those new interpretations have found audiences. I'm just saying, keep it lose, leave room for everyone. And for godsake, don't complain when someone gives you room to be creative!
And, I guess I should note, I was very, very happy at the broad interpretations that people took in the Sci-Fest.