Odyssey7 & Odyssey7Q October 2014 Firmware Update

Mitch Gross said:
They do some work in one area, something like generating custom frame guides, and somehow it interacts weird with a bunch of code in a completely unrelated area and corrupts a file when recording. But it might only corrupt in some singularly obscure way, say when recording 60i over HDMI from a Canon DSLR. Won't effect SDI, won't effect non-Canon DSLRs, won't effect Canon cameras that aren't DSLRs but are still coming in over HDMI at the same frame rate. It's maddening I tell you!
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Sometimes, this is a normal situation and nothing is wrong. Give the developers enough time to fix the issues.

keep cool :-)

Mitch Gross said:
Whenever we develop new code there is an extensive series of tests, and frankly these tests have gotten considerably longer and more complex as we have added more and more features. We have one group of engineers working on new firmware, another on testing and then another on figuring out why something went wrong in whatever test. They are all interacting all the time so as to be as efficient as possible and help both prevent issues as well as hunt them down once they are discovered. It would drive me insane.

So all that is to say that new firmware is definitely on the way. Don't know how long it will be until we can release it though. It's really impossible to say until they complete these endless tests. It takes three solid days to run through the permutations when they DON'T find any problems. And they ALWAYS find problems.
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These are good news! (lot of testing, software have to be stable, ...)
Thank you for the information.

I´m waiting ...
 
This is completely normal, and not something I want to cause alarm for anyone. Just trying to illustrate the process and why it is difficult to give a schedule.
 
Hi Mitch and everyone,

So, since Sony is releasing the V.2 firmware of the FS7 this month (by the end of it probably) and that it will substantially change a few things regarding S-Log3 and S-Gamut3.Cine as you hinted in another post...

Am I right to believe you won't release the next firmware update of the Odyssey 7Q before the FS7 firmware update ?

It would seem logical on your side not to release a firmware that would potentially be not compatible with the next FS7 update.

IMO, it would be better to inform us of such a decision than leaving us totally in darkness. Again I'm not blaming you nor Sony even if one could argue that they haven't put enough resources from the beginning to correct the few problems on this camera. From the infos I got, the development team of the FS7 was very small but that's another story.

Cheers.
 
This is not the case. We are actually held up by another company for our current release. I am actually preparing an announcement that we will release in the next day or two with information.

The FS7 is not the only camera we support, although it is very important to us. We plan to offer support as best as possible for pre- and post-Sony updates so that clients can continue to use their cameras. There are various factors at work in the process of offering this support, some of which are outside of Convergent Design.
 
Thank you Mitch, I understand !

Hoping to hear soon some news on the matter then.

PS: What about the stand alone software correcting already recorded RAW footage ?
 
c'mon.. not again that tick tock game.

And having learned to read the messages: announcement doesn't mean firmware update.
 
..but we might learn, if higher frame rates like FS700 4K RAW -> 2160p/50/60 ProRes or new ProRes flavors will arrive soon, very soon or very very soon.
 
If FS 4K RAW > 4K Pro Res 50/60P is coming soon, my order will be placed for a 7Q+ with 2 x 1TB drives immediately! Here's hoping!
 
Hope to see these in coming updates
1.more color choice on IRE between blue and green
2.can save custom IRE into preset for easier changing between diff camera/video profile use.
3.include vectorscope feature if possible
4.can plug keyboard into usb port for easier typing for those file name/note
 
Strouty said:
I'm personally more excited for custom LUT capability then anything else
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Me too! I've been actually using the contrast setting at 90% as a sort of a LUT on the O7Q and that gives me a very good starting point for seeing how to light my subjects on set.
 
Mitch Gross said:
One of these days I'm going to ask the engineers to more clearly explain exactly how this happens. They do some work in one area, something like generating custom frame guides, and somehow it interacts weird with a bunch of code in a completely unrelated area and corrupts a file when recording. But it might only corrupt in some singularly obscure way, say when recording 60i over HDMI from a Canon DSLR. Won't effect SDI, won't effect non-Canon DSLRs, won't effect Canon cameras that aren't DSLRs but are still coming in over HDMI at the same frame rate. It's maddening I tell you!
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This can happen especially when things start to get more "full" when developing firmware for say FPGA's. When compiling, there's numerous ways to try make it all "fit" so the compiler will randomly try combinations of things until it succeeds. Yes, randomly. It's also typical to run several compilers simultaneously for this reason, and also 'bugs' can often be fixed just by compiling again without otherwise changing code. Can be frustrating I know, and requires diligence and methodical QA testing.
 
Steven Abrams said:
This can happen especially when things start to get more "full" when developing firmware for say FPGA's. When compiling, there's numerous ways to try make it all "fit" so the compiler will randomly try combinations of things until it succeeds. Yes, randomly. It's also typical to run several compilers simultaneously for this reason, and also 'bugs' can often be fixed just by compiling again without otherwise changing code. Can be frustrating I know, and requires diligence and methodical QA testing.
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So, a computer program is subjected to chaos theory. Brilliant !

Mitch Gross said:
Hey guys, as this is an elderly thread (not even the last firmware update in December but instead the October one), perhaps we can move the discussion over to a new thread. I've placed the Forecast announcement at the start of this thread:
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Mitch Gross said:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthrea...-amp-Moving-Ahead&p=1986524678#post1986524678
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Mitch is right, let's move on to a new thread and bury this one.
 
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