Ode to the noob

I have to ask about ROR... I know ROI is return on investment... return on ... rrrrrridiculousness?
 
subtleinspiration said:
No, it will not all be CG eventually. Actual live, human actors will always have a place, and CG will always have its place.
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I was exaggerating, but CGI will continue to play a bigger role, and having intimate knowledge of its workings can only help a fledgling filmmakers career. Directors who are as comfortable directing actors as they are cg artists are a rare commodity.
 
I completely disagree. CGI only plays a major role in big budget productions, and that is going to get shrunken down given the economy and studios trying to save money.
 
subtleinspiration said:
I completely disagree. CGI only plays a major role in big budget productions, and that is going to get shrunken down given the economy and studios trying to save money.
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I completely disagree, as the tools and horsepower to produce quality CGI will only get cheaper and cheaper...Why do you think the Panic Attack guys got such a dream deal? Because they did what they did relatively cheap. Ode's developed a skill, and it would be a shame to throw that away when it can be put to use in this new endeavor. If all he wants to make is My Dinner With Andre than I suppose it will do him no good, but if his ambition is to make big budget productions than it would only serve him good to use all the abilities he has at his disposal, provided he also learn how to tell a good story and work with actors.
 
Ode's skill is in computer engineering. That does not mean he can immediately transfer that into CGI. He made no mention of doing CGI at all, on the contrary. You said he should take his computer engineering knowledge and mold that into CGI because all films are going to be CGI one day.

First, that will not be the case. You could have said that all films would be animation one day back when Walt Disney first started. They all have their place, and one will not completely envelope the other.

Plus, there are many different levels of CGI work. Some is just compositing on live action, others are developing the entire frame in CG. These are two different skillsets. He should, obviously, learn how to shot for compositing if, and when, he gets to that point, but he has plenty of time. What he needs to do now is concentrate on developing a watchable film, the most difficult aspect of that business.

And it's a whole lot easier to be a one-man band on a live action feature film than it is to be on a CGI feature.

The advice to learn CGi is completely useless if he has no desire to be in that realm. I have a strong comp sci background, but I have no desire to learn CGI. I've played with 3D Studio and don't have enough passion to take the time to learn it.
 
subtleinspiration said:
Ode's skill is in computer engineering. That does not mean he can immediately transfer that into CGI. He made no mention of doing CGI at all, on the contrary. You said he should take his computer engineering knowledge and mold that into CGI because all films are going to be CGI one day.

First, that will not be the case. You could have said that all films would be animation one day back when Walt Disney first started. They all have their place, and one will not completely envelope the other.

Plus, there are many different levels of CGI work. Some is just compositing on live action, others are developing the entire frame in CG. These are two different skillsets. He should, obviously, learn how to shot for compositing if, and when, he gets to that point, but he has plenty of time. What he needs to do now is concentrate on developing a watchable film, the most difficult aspect of that business.

And it's a whole lot easier to be a one-man band on a live action feature film than it is to be on a CGI feature.

The advice to learn CGi is completely useless if he has no desire to be in that realm. I have a strong comp sci background, but I have no desire to learn CGI. I've played with 3D Studio and don't have enough passion to take the time to learn it.
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It was just advice. I'm not mandating he follow it. How much CGI will take over filmmaking is a debatable point. I can't see the future, but it would seem to me in 20-30 years time when we have CGI that is indistinguishable from reality, that fact will change the whole reality of filmmaking considerably. There will always be a place for traditional filmmaking, but my guess is that place will get smaller and less relevant to the masses, much like theater is today.
 
well shoot i feel like a crappy person. I never made an introduction when i became a member here. Then again I've never really used a dvx either... just dont tell anyone... i like my sony and canon cameras.
 
Ode... if I were spending money or getting paid for my humor it would say ROI... but since I just hope 25% think it's funny it's ROR.

It's not as much the difference between money and comedy... as it is a matter of principle.

Welcome to the forum :)
 
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Did anyone mention the $50.00 initiation fee that the noobs have to pay to every existing member?

I believe it's in the first chapter of the DVXuser Noob manual.

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No, Matt, I was wondering what the last "R" in ROR stood for... acronym-wise.

Heh, yes Jason... was wondering if you'd see this and say hello. S'up man.

Join date of October '79, eh? That's amazing! Color me impressed. -grin-
 
Hey Ode, I just noticed you're in Alabama too! I think you're the first DVXUser I've noticed from around these parts.
 
Ode... it's "rate of Return"... a joke is made and X percentage of the audience laughs. Getting some other loner-wanker like myself in a better mood, through laughter is my "return".

Return on Investment implies something invested (and I don't take my joking that seriously). Once I'm writing in hopes of getting $$$ for laughs... I'll raise my projected ROR, pray for a decent ROI, and drastically lower my IQ so I can get 'r done, that's right.

From my previous post:

MattinSTL said:
...as it is a matter of principle.
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Dry like a James Bond martini... but unfortunately not that funny... still, a joke.
 
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