Nuttin Bi*ch!
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J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Let's be cool everyone. This is definately not of the family channel variety and if Chris Rock or Chapelle was doing it maybe it'd be seen in another light. Even I'm holding back from saying anything and yall know I just need to chime in.
Anyway; if it ain't your bag then just move on or keep the comments on a technical note.
Anyway; if it ain't your bag then just move on or keep the comments on a technical note.
Yas Kassana
Well-known member
Yeah it's a re-hash of Chris Rocks NIgga please parody sketch. Those people here saying it's racist. PUH-lease! You guys need to get out more. As we stop taking the piss and let the PC crowd get everything we want - things will get worse for everyone. If you can't laugh at it, then i'm afraid you might be hiding some form of racism in yourself.
Northainan
Active member
It looks OK but I have the feeling that the way your film look is not on the top of the list; the reaction of the audience and making it a huge hit is at the top of your list in which there is nothing wrong with that goal.
But when you are an ARTIST you know you are going to get criticisim, that comes with the territory. Don't get offended if someone don't find your "Point Of View" uninspiring for them,that's just the way it is in entertainment.
Sure Chris Rock and Dave Chapelle use the 'N" and the "B" word a great deal in their acts but the way they do it goes back to the lyrics from a Blues song; "It ain't what you say, it's how you say it";"It ain't what you do,it's how you do it'; It ain't when you say ,it's where you say it and it ain't where you say ,it's when you say it". Good Luck.
But when you are an ARTIST you know you are going to get criticisim, that comes with the territory. Don't get offended if someone don't find your "Point Of View" uninspiring for them,that's just the way it is in entertainment.
Sure Chris Rock and Dave Chapelle use the 'N" and the "B" word a great deal in their acts but the way they do it goes back to the lyrics from a Blues song; "It ain't what you say, it's how you say it";"It ain't what you do,it's how you do it'; It ain't when you say ,it's where you say it and it ain't where you say ,it's when you say it". Good Luck.
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Kirk Gillock
Rebel with a cause
This video was well made and well executed (although long). Unfortunately, it's premise and concept suffers from the "lowest common denominator" syndrome. Making fun of stereotypes is one of the lowest forms of comedy. It's down there with making fun of the handicap and deceased. It requires NO thought and NO sense of humor to "create it" and/or "get it". You put A LOT of work into the execution of this video. It shows. But why not put the same amount of effort into the concept/story? Content is King.
Note: Just because someone doesn't find it funny (or they find it offensive) doesn't mean they "don't get it". That excuse is faulty and weak.
A few weeks ago John Hudson posted a link to a mockumentary about the first black astronauts. It was smart, well done, and hilarious. http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=31585 Stereotypes and all.
Good luck and I hope that you will use your skills to shoot something that will raise the comedy bar, instead of lowering it further and further.
My .01 cent (the market has hurt PK's value).
pk
Note: Just because someone doesn't find it funny (or they find it offensive) doesn't mean they "don't get it". That excuse is faulty and weak.
A few weeks ago John Hudson posted a link to a mockumentary about the first black astronauts. It was smart, well done, and hilarious. http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=31585 Stereotypes and all.
Good luck and I hope that you will use your skills to shoot something that will raise the comedy bar, instead of lowering it further and further.
My .01 cent (the market has hurt PK's value).
pk
ProfD
Well-known member
My goodness....
Guys....given the varied responses so far to a simple comedic effort, it seems that you have obviously stumbled upon something that could easily create 'the buzz' or 'media-hype' so many seem to be after nowdays. While some folks almost instinctually apply American conservative moralisms to it, others think it kicks-ass and is simply incredibly funny. The point is, most seem to have strong reactions to it. Seems to me you've got an interesting style here that should be worth a producer taking a serious peak.
FYI...this comes from someone who teaches in a community that has recently banned and burned books in the local public library because their contents didn't agree with local religious norms. Tom Sawyer, Huck Finn, etc...top of the list of things these folks didn't find funny. Took a court order to get them to stop burning and leave the poor ole' Librarian alone.
Maybe some folks just like fire and it has nothing to do with how letters and words are arranged in a threatening way on a page.
But things are what they are and everyone has an...uh...opinion. And like someone said earlier, just let it roll off your back. There seems to be a distinct 'style' in your creative efforts that I find interesting. Not really content, but the look and feel of it all.
ramblings,
Prof.D.
Guys....given the varied responses so far to a simple comedic effort, it seems that you have obviously stumbled upon something that could easily create 'the buzz' or 'media-hype' so many seem to be after nowdays. While some folks almost instinctually apply American conservative moralisms to it, others think it kicks-ass and is simply incredibly funny. The point is, most seem to have strong reactions to it. Seems to me you've got an interesting style here that should be worth a producer taking a serious peak.
FYI...this comes from someone who teaches in a community that has recently banned and burned books in the local public library because their contents didn't agree with local religious norms. Tom Sawyer, Huck Finn, etc...top of the list of things these folks didn't find funny. Took a court order to get them to stop burning and leave the poor ole' Librarian alone.
Maybe some folks just like fire and it has nothing to do with how letters and words are arranged in a threatening way on a page.
But things are what they are and everyone has an...uh...opinion. And like someone said earlier, just let it roll off your back. There seems to be a distinct 'style' in your creative efforts that I find interesting. Not really content, but the look and feel of it all.
ramblings,
Prof.D.
Thanks for the comments / feedback.
Thanks for the comments / feedback.
Thanks for all your comments. Comedy is subjective, some will find it very funny, others will be offended - but we listen to what everyone has to say - good or bad.
ProfD - you are right. Our work generates a very strong (as you can see on this board) response from everyone we share it with - and on a marketing/viability level, that is a very good thing. Many execs have commented thus far on the look and feel of our work, stating that its got its own original edginess to it. Currently, several major cable networks along with agencies are scouting our product right now, and the response has been tremendous thus far.
We are based out of New York City. I'll keep you posted on our progress.
Thanks for the comments / feedback.
Thanks for all your comments. Comedy is subjective, some will find it very funny, others will be offended - but we listen to what everyone has to say - good or bad.
ProfD - you are right. Our work generates a very strong (as you can see on this board) response from everyone we share it with - and on a marketing/viability level, that is a very good thing. Many execs have commented thus far on the look and feel of our work, stating that its got its own original edginess to it. Currently, several major cable networks along with agencies are scouting our product right now, and the response has been tremendous thus far.
We are based out of New York City. I'll keep you posted on our progress.
Ramon Boutviseth
Well-known member
My pimp hand has gone limp. Throw me some of that nut N honey Yo. I enjoyed it.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
ProfD said:
You live in Nazi Germany?
I think technically it looks wonderful. Whoever shot it knows what their doing. I do agree with PK in it being the simplest form of comedy. If your laughing hysterically at it then your easy.
Is it funny? Yeah for second. Like "Nuttin *****" ha hah...............
But in a drawn out sketch? It had about as much substance as a really bad SNL sketch; the kind that doesnt work. Your left sitting there thinking "I'm up at midnight watching SNL?"
I say keep it up; but hopefully youcan find some more creative writers.
dustino
Well-known member
Technically well done - content predictable and uncreative. I consider myself a fan of irreverant comedy - South Park, early SNL, Kids in the Hall, Team America, Lenny Bruce, Chris Rock, some Chappelle, Richard Pryor (the god of all stand-up comedy IMO) etc. What I think all of the above have in common is that they tweak cultural norms in an intelligent, critical way using comedy to ask hard questions about ourselves. They also often make themselves the target of their critique - but even then in an intelligent way. What I didn't like about this was that it made no comment or critique about stereotypes or generalizations. The sterotype was the intended (and unsuccessful IMO) humor.
Ha, ha, instead of sterotypical suburban white people, let's use the stereotypes of poor, urban blacks. Not critical, not intelligent, not funny. These stereotypes have had much more negative consequences for black americans than the stereotype of square suburban whites.
So, I feel that most who found little humor in this are not too uptight or just didn't "get it", I think they simply found it lacking what makes most "irreverant comedy" successful - intelligence, critique, and, often, self-incrimination.
Nonetheless, I applaud your technical skills and look forward to viewing further work. I saw this as a "first draft" conceptually. Our first ideas (at least mine) usually miss the mark and are too obvious. I think pushing your ideas a little further, adding another layer or two to the concept, and you'll be on fire.
I think playing with the original commercial's concept of happy, suburban whites would have been much more successful. Having a square white guy suddenly freak out on his perky wife would have been funnier to me - exposing the rage underlying the pressures of suburban conformity and the inherent falseness of middle class politeness. Even that has been done to death, I know, so maybe it's the third, fourth, or fifth draft that really fires on all cylinders.
But hey man, at least your making work (technically superior work at that) and putting it out there for public viewing and criticism.
Ha, ha, instead of sterotypical suburban white people, let's use the stereotypes of poor, urban blacks. Not critical, not intelligent, not funny. These stereotypes have had much more negative consequences for black americans than the stereotype of square suburban whites.
So, I feel that most who found little humor in this are not too uptight or just didn't "get it", I think they simply found it lacking what makes most "irreverant comedy" successful - intelligence, critique, and, often, self-incrimination.
Nonetheless, I applaud your technical skills and look forward to viewing further work. I saw this as a "first draft" conceptually. Our first ideas (at least mine) usually miss the mark and are too obvious. I think pushing your ideas a little further, adding another layer or two to the concept, and you'll be on fire.
I think playing with the original commercial's concept of happy, suburban whites would have been much more successful. Having a square white guy suddenly freak out on his perky wife would have been funnier to me - exposing the rage underlying the pressures of suburban conformity and the inherent falseness of middle class politeness. Even that has been done to death, I know, so maybe it's the third, fourth, or fifth draft that really fires on all cylinders.
But hey man, at least your making work (technically superior work at that) and putting it out there for public viewing and criticism.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
NIce take Dustino; well said.
Logan LeBlanc
Well-known member
Oh yeah Dustino. I couldn't agree more.
Matt Grunau
Adobe Demigod
I liked it. Seemed to be pulled a little longer for my taste, but well done.
I found the reverse stereotyping a bit refreshing.
I couldn't disagree more. Personally I am sick to death of the ever building politically correct garbage over the last twenty years, and its effect on Video and Film production.
I am even more sick to death that at this point, the only people who can be aggressively, gleefully, and racially slammed and smeared are heterosexual white males. Even better, be they dreaded Christians.
Why is it (and this thread proves it all the more) using blacks or any other minority in this kind of humor is “offensive” or “racist”, but if it's “Square middle class whites” it's not only acceptable but encouraged? Not only encouraged, but also at this point expected, and when one deviates from the now established guidelines for race bashing they get labeled and their work besmirched. More than a little hypocritical to say the least.
Great work, technically and otherwise, and a nice slide away from the norm.
I found the reverse stereotyping a bit refreshing.
dustino said:
I couldn't disagree more. Personally I am sick to death of the ever building politically correct garbage over the last twenty years, and its effect on Video and Film production.
I am even more sick to death that at this point, the only people who can be aggressively, gleefully, and racially slammed and smeared are heterosexual white males. Even better, be they dreaded Christians.
Why is it (and this thread proves it all the more) using blacks or any other minority in this kind of humor is “offensive” or “racist”, but if it's “Square middle class whites” it's not only acceptable but encouraged? Not only encouraged, but also at this point expected, and when one deviates from the now established guidelines for race bashing they get labeled and their work besmirched. More than a little hypocritical to say the least.
Great work, technically and otherwise, and a nice slide away from the norm.
RONINFILMER
Active member
forget what all these other people say about it being racist. yes it racist but racism is funny. if it wasnt most comedians wouldnt have jobs. i thought it was great! the look of it was awsome to.