November... Sundance winner.. 25 cameras...?

[J.R. Hudson]

Re: November... Sundance winner.. 25 cameras...?

I can see both sides of the coin on this matter and your points (Jay and Mike) are valid.

It's like any art form. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Some people like Pollacks art, others (like me) think it's crap.

Me personally? I prefer and would rather emulate what I like and that would fall under the 'Standards' category. I am not at all against experimentation, bending the rules and abstract applications, but I (personally) would use them carefully.

For me, it goes back to understanding the rules and principles and knowing where to bend them.

Damn, I am a philosopher.

 

[Guest]

Re: November... Sundance winner.. 25 cameras...?

to iamloser: no problem. no need for apologies.

since I mentioned the dogme95 issue- ill just add my two cents.

when I first heard of it, I thought it was a joke too. but then it's these challenges that we as filmmakers face that helps us become better at what we do. Like alot of you mentioned- an image doesn't need to have 3 point lighting to look good. it might suspend disbelief,yes, but I agree it can be beautiful even under one light. because the director is really just "painting" the scene...or the cinematographer/production designer-whatever.
and I always thought 3 point lighting was just so that it helps to pull the subject out of the flatness of 2D and into 3Dness. all realistic drawings incorporate 3 point lighting. otherwise, the picture doesn't "jump out". what's my point?
Whenever I watch a Humpherey Bogart film... or WEST SIDE STORY.. I'm just aways amazed and where they hide all those dang lights. It's quite a feat. I'm sure it's all hanging up there- but it's done so well. No wonder they are used again and again for film schools. also because of my trained eye, I can see every artificial light- double shadows- director's eye never sleeps and it's bothersome... but at the end of the day, most people don't notice how well lit a scene is. and that's the whole point. dogme or not, you do what you gotta do to make your scene just the way you want it. so much work, so much dedication- but the idea is that you want to turn it into an illusion- I think that's what we all need to remember. oh man, everytime I talk about lighting, my friends just tune me out. oh boy.

 

[J.R. Hudson]

Re: November... Sundance winner.. 25 cameras...?

True true true.

I watched PULP FICTION tonigh on the computer (with headphones while I was writing) and took some time to study the lighting. Jeez, I picked up every little detail on what was natural, artificial, mistakes.

My wife goes insane when I pause it, call her in and then sow her the technical stuff! lol

 

[Raptor3400]

MiRe: November... Sundance winner.. 25 cameras...?

MiRe: November... Sundance winner.. 25 cameras...?

Minor quabble, I took exception when 'November' director said "You can't tell that we shot it on a consumer camera, it just looks like a regular movie.." consumer camcorder!! ouch. A $3800,3-CCD, 24P camera with a phenomenal Lieca lens is hardly 'a consumer camera. Sorry, its my first rant.