Noob question..

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dustinstoneband

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Hey guys, excuse my lame noob question here, but I am considering purchasing the 7D and I would like to know...

Is the video quality going to be good enough to be broadcast on television? Say, for a music video? If I filmed in hd 24p?

Thanks

Dustin
 
Yeah, it should definitely be enough. I was once told that 720P is enough for most broadcasters. Dunno if anyone here can verify that? But yeah, I think if you shoot full HD (1920 x 1080) @ 24/25/30, it should definitely be enough for TV.
 
Keep in mind that some networks in the past like Discovery have not allowed footage to be used in programming that originated in formats like HDV. Now don't ask me how they can justify that considering one of their hit television series "Deadliest Catch" is recorded primarily with Sony Z1U's. I guess it really all depends on how popular the show becomes! Not sure how the networks are going to react to AVCHD. Considering the compression is way better with AVCHD than HDV, it should be acceptable. Of course it doesn't hurt that many very successful and skilled DP's have embraced the Canon 5D Mark II.
 
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Hi Dustin: In addition to what everyone else has said here (it's all true), the question of what is "broadcastable" is infinitely both more complicated and simple than you might ever imagine.

Each (each) broadcast channel/network/online/thing has its own technical requirements. Only they can tell you what they require. And, just to keep things fun, they periodically change their technical requirements, so around and around it goes.

In addition to whatever they require at any given moment, their rules about what they will or won't broadcast are also flexible depending on how they perceive the value of the material. In other words, business & political pressure often override their technical requirements. If there is some reason the material is compelling (to them), they'll broadcast it even if it's freeze-dried horse poop. This happens every day, all day, all over the world. That's show business!

So, yeah, sure if handled properly the 7D will create great-looking video. Whether it can get broadcast is up to each broadcaster individually. And these decisions will change back & forth over time. But if the material is really valuable to _them_, they'll slap it on air faster than PBS can say "Thank You".
 
so i should assume they dont accept hd videos? or just that they dont broadcast in hd so it would be downgraded to sd?

thats kinda annoying. they're the biggest music television station in canada. and i don't want to film in SD. I guess downgraded HD would be better quality than SD tho.

either way, I guess it doesn't matter to this particular channel WHICH camera is used.. as long as you meet these specs....
 
dustinstoneband said:
so i should assume they dont accept hd videos? or just that they dont broadcast in hd so it would be downgraded to sd?

thats kinda annoying. they're the biggest music television station in canada. and i don't want to film in SD. I guess downgraded HD would be better quality than SD tho.

either way, I guess it doesn't matter to this particular channel WHICH camera is used.. as long as you meet these specs....
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I would assume that they won't accept it in HD. You'd need to downres before you did a print.
 
dope videos timurcivan...

were there certain technical specs you were careful to meet to submit to mtv? i've been searching for their specs to compare to muchmusic's but can't find anything yet for some reason...
 
KeithAndrews.TV said:
Keep in mind that some networks in the past like Discovery have not allowed footage to be used in programming that originated in formats like HDV. Now don't ask me how they can justify that considering one of their hit television series "Deadliest Catch" is recorded primarily with Sony Z1U's. I guess it really all depends on how popular the show becomes! Not sure how the networks are going to react to AVCHD. Considering the compression is way better with AVCHD than HDV, it should be acceptable. Of course it doesn't hurt that many very successful and skilled DP's have embraced the Canon 5D Mark II.
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Just a clarification - networks have different tiers for their shows. In Discovery's case, it is Gold, Silver, and Bronze. It isn't that they don't allow HDV, they just pay less for shows that have a certain percentage of HDV in the final cut.

Currently, network standards do not even mention DSLRs specifically. As a reference, though, the Sony EX1 is considered a silver tier camera so long as it is recorded at 35 MB/s (HQ mode). The 7D's codec has a higher bit rate and is rooted in h.264, not MPEG-2 like the EX1. So, it is very possible that footage created with the 7D/5D is at least on par with silver tier standards...
 
honestly...

we dont even pay attention to standards. they just want the content. noone asks what its origionated on so long as the Digitbeta copy looks "good". the first few videos i did i was like a frea kabout 110 IRE legal limits, and Red channel limits... etc... the editor blew the highlights to 110 and super saturated everyhting to an illegal level. they then ran a "tvsafe" filter on it that dialed everything to limits, and handed it in.

so much for all my work.

So i stopped worrying about it....
 
oh yes, the 'broadcast safe' filter.. ha ha.. I've used this before in FCP, just out of curiousity.. gave me the green check mark in color correction but certainly takes away from the personal touch...

thanks for your insight, I guess i really dont need to stress about this. I'm going to give it a go when this camera comes out and see how it goes.. i'm stoked actually. :)
 
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