Non-Pluralize Synch tutorial

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jaydigges

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Do you think the larger DSLR community could benefit from a tutorial on synching audio to video within Final Cut?

Im not sure how many people out there are like me, I scoff when Philip Bloom says that the way to synch audio is to buy plural eyes. Why would you pay $140 for something that takes 5 minutes for an experienced editor? Has anyone else out there been synching manually with Final cut? I have been doing this for years, and Im thinking of doing a free video tutorial on my process.
 
do the tutorial! please! =) plural eyes has software accuracy, but manual is free. And that's good enough if one takes enough time to get learned about a decent workflow. =)
 
it takes me a minute or so in premiere pro. If you can set timeline markers in finalcut, it should take the same amount of time.
my method is to drag your movie with guide track on to the timeline. Zoom in and lengthen the audio track vertically so you can see the waveform clearly and set a marker at the very beginning of the first word or noise. Open up your other audio track in the source window and zoom in, set an in point at the very beginning of the first word or noise. Drag that to the timeline on a seperate audio track and snap it to the marker and then your done. If your off, it takes a few seconds to drag it one frame left or right to sync it up.
Does anyone have a better workflow? If I had to do this on more than 10 clips, I'd rather have pluraleyes do it for me.
 
Before I used Pluralize I just used a clapper or clapped my hands after both camera and sound were rolling and used that sudden noise to sync the two up. Very easy, just time consuming and/or dull.

I used pluraleyes on my short film because I had 200-250 dialogue clips to match up. I set pluraleyes to run and went to bed. :) To me, it was worth the money. Just my 2 cents...
 
Thanks for chiming in Awelgraven,

This is a really good point. its all about Volume. Considering Im looking at 5-10 clips per shoot... and there is plenty of things I could spend the $ on, I have not purchased it.

Here is the tutorial: http://www.vimeo.com/9602352

Hope it helps.
 
awelgraven said:
Before I used Pluralize I just used a clapper or clapped my hands after both camera and sound were rolling and used that sudden noise to sync the two up. Very easy, just time consuming and/or dull.

I used pluraleyes on my short film because I had 200-250 dialogue clips to match up. I set pluraleyes to run and went to bed. :) To me, it was worth the money. Just my 2 cents...
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Agreed. I shot a short for school, on film, that I edited in Avid (forced to as part of the program workflow). The beauty of Avid is that it's built to sync audio in a somewhat kinder way.

When I moved to FCP for my final film, I was somewhat surprised at the workflow, it didn't quite make sense, like syncing was an afterthought. In fact, I don't think it was a thought at all, it just happens that you can do it.

I like pluraleyes because when you have a short film's worth of takes, they sync quickly, and you can even do it while you're not at home.
 
i learned manually doing it. My last project had probably 100+ cuts,all synced this way, takes maybe 10-30secs / clip once you get used to it.
 
If it's slated properly, sure.

If it's not...

We're trying to sync a concert shot by three noobs who started and stopped their cameras at will. The talent looks the same throughout and the music is similar, so it's not easy to place. Something like this would be perfect for an auto-sync software. Either that or outsourcing...
 
good point I. In order to do this, you HAVE to start and stop your video/audio clips at the same time, AND always slate at the beginning, in fact sometimes i slate 2 or 3 times just to ahve more reference points, (sometimes lining up 2 lines is easier than one), and if whoever is slating doesnt do it hard enough, i always tell them to do it again.
 
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