Noir Clips
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taylormade
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Re: Noir Clips
I guess I'd better start paying attention to those S ;Dmileys.
I guess I'd better start paying attention to those S ;Dmileys.
taylormade
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Re: Noir Clips
I think that noise I just heard was John Huston spinning in his grave.
RT
I think that noise I just heard was John Huston spinning in his grave.
RT
Hayden_Rivers
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Wow. That was great.
Wow. That was great.
M
mino
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[quote author=Slimothy link=board=Clips;num=1102490581;start=15#17 date=12/08/04 at 13:42:19]I can't watch it for some reason. All this pumping it up got me excited. I always have problems with REALplayer. :-[[/quote]
Every time I load that snotty little program I have major grief. It always takes over the whole system like it was put out by militant hackers. It's a piece of SHITE!!!
[quote author=Slimothy link=board=Clips;num=1102490581;start=15#17 date=12/08/04 at 13:42:19]I can't watch it for some reason. All this pumping it up got me excited. I always have problems with REALplayer. :-[[/quote]
Every time I load that snotty little program I have major grief. It always takes over the whole system like it was put out by militant hackers. It's a piece of SHITE!!!
dakotapod
Veteran
Re: Noir Clips
[quote author=Slimothy link=board=Clips;num=1102490581;start=15#17 date=12/08/04 at 13:42:19]I can't watch it for some reason. All this pumping it up got me excited. I always have problems with REALplayer. :-[[/quote]
Uninstall real one completely. If you must play real media files use the real alternative:
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm
Use windows media player to watch mpegs.
Quicktime for MOV
Hope this helps.
[quote author=Slimothy link=board=Clips;num=1102490581;start=15#17 date=12/08/04 at 13:42:19]I can't watch it for some reason. All this pumping it up got me excited. I always have problems with REALplayer. :-[[/quote]
Uninstall real one completely. If you must play real media files use the real alternative:
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm
Use windows media player to watch mpegs.
Quicktime for MOV
Hope this helps.
M
mino
Guest
Re: Noir Clips
GRRRrrrrrrr
I must not play Real Media
I must not play Real Media
I must not play Real Media
I must not play Real Media
I must not play Real Media
I must not play Real Media
I must not play Real Media
I must not play Real Media
I must not play Real Media
GRRRrrrrrrr
I must not play Real Media
I must not play Real Media
I must not play Real Media
I must not play Real Media
I must not play Real Media
I must not play Real Media
I must not play Real Media
I must not play Real Media
I must not play Real Media
Re: Noir Clips
That stuff looks great! Classic noir. Great job!
Only one issue -- the sound. It's too good. Too clear. It's not noir. I bring it up because it almost wrecks the illusion. Otherwise, this diddy was made in 1940!
That stuff looks great! Classic noir. Great job!
Only one issue -- the sound. It's too good. Too clear. It's not noir. I bring it up because it almost wrecks the illusion. Otherwise, this diddy was made in 1940!
M
mino
Guest
Re: Noir Clips
Hey David...I think he mentioned that in his first post,sound is not mixed
Hey David...I think he mentioned that in his first post,sound is not mixed
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And so he did! My oversight.
And so he did! My oversight.
taylormade
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Re: Noir Clips
I suppose we could get into a pissing match about just how good sound was in films of the forties, but I'm just too pleased at being told my sound was TOO good. That's the kind of criticisim I like.
The problem is, we've become used to seeing old noir-style films on prints that are often one or two generations distant from the original. These were considered cheap, throw-away films at the time and once they had their theatrical run they were tossed in a vault to rot. Since these prints had optical sound, once the track became contaminated with dust and dirt the inevitable popping and hiss developed when the prints were projected. If you ever have the chance to see a restored film from the forties that has been printed from an original negative and has a track copied from an original, unmolested optical original, you might change your mind about just how "bad" those old soundtrack really were.
As for "Stakeout On Tenth Street", I still have street noise, presence, Foley and music to add before this one is put to bed.
RT
I suppose we could get into a pissing match about just how good sound was in films of the forties, but I'm just too pleased at being told my sound was TOO good. That's the kind of criticisim I like.
The problem is, we've become used to seeing old noir-style films on prints that are often one or two generations distant from the original. These were considered cheap, throw-away films at the time and once they had their theatrical run they were tossed in a vault to rot. Since these prints had optical sound, once the track became contaminated with dust and dirt the inevitable popping and hiss developed when the prints were projected. If you ever have the chance to see a restored film from the forties that has been printed from an original negative and has a track copied from an original, unmolested optical original, you might change your mind about just how "bad" those old soundtrack really were.
As for "Stakeout On Tenth Street", I still have street noise, presence, Foley and music to add before this one is put to bed.
RT
darkavenger
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Re: Noir Clips
WoW!
Really nice. It's been said, but I gotta say it again. Nice! The actors made it feel like real. I've seen some nice clips on the boards before, but this is the first time I can really notice the benefits of good acting. On top of a very convincing noir look (well, it convinced me at least) and you have these clips that stand out among others. I'm jealous. As for the clips, I just pause it, let it load and then play again, and the frame rate seems normal to me.
WoW!
Really nice. It's been said, but I gotta say it again. Nice! The actors made it feel like real. I've seen some nice clips on the boards before, but this is the first time I can really notice the benefits of good acting. On top of a very convincing noir look (well, it convinced me at least) and you have these clips that stand out among others. I'm jealous. As for the clips, I just pause it, let it load and then play again, and the frame rate seems normal to me.
taylormade
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Re: Noir Clips
Thanks for the kind words, everybody.
Archburn: final running time is 18 minutes.
RT
Thanks for the kind words, everybody.
Archburn: final running time is 18 minutes.
RT
taylormade
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Re: Noir Clips
Budgets are relative things.
I restore antique cars as a hobby so all the cars were either mine or owned by friends of mine.
Total cost - 10 bucks for gas.
All the actors worked under the SAG Experimental Film Program. I don't have to pay them until the video makes money - if it ever does.
Total cost - nothing.
All the actors had their own wardrobe. The lead actor, a good friend of mine, went out and bought a 1948 suit at an antique clothing store because he "always wanted one."
The actors also did their own makeup. You may ask why these folks would do all this work for free? Easy, they really liked the script, they know I know what I'm doing, and it gives them a chance to act in something other than a corporate video or a local commercial. Good actors in "non-film" towns are desperate to work in something dramatic. Plus, we're all friends.
Cost - nothing.
The main location was the deserted Municipal Courts building in downtown St. Louis. The city let us use it for free and even provided a city worker on site to help us unlock doors and have access to electricity. The warehouse location is next to a production company where I often freelance. It's above the City Museum and I've shot several videos for the museum. They handed me the key and we had all night to shoot anytime we need to. The street scene with the car is in an alley right next to the museum and we ran extension cords out of the warehouse for power. The apartment was in a renovated 30s building, the display unit. It was decorated in 40's style. We asked the building owner and he let us use it for free.
Total location costs - nothing.
I own a DVX100, tripod, lights (Arri four light kit) and an Avid editing system. I use them everyday in my freelance buisness. I suppose I could charge a small part of their cost back into the video, but they have paid for themselves three times over already.
Equipment cost - nothing.
As far as props go, I own the blank-firing automatic and the dummy Thompson and have for years. Already discussed the cars and wardrobe.
Blank ammo, Kyro surup for blood - total $15.00
Crew. I was DP, camera operator, director and also did all the lighting. My wife and daughter helped with continuity and grip work. My daughter was "boom man" on several shoots and the son of the lead actor handled that chore on several other locations. I fed the sound straight into the DVX, no mixer.
Cost of crew - nothing.
I edited and did all the effects and titles on my Avid, Photoshop and AfterEffects systems in my home office. Bought and paid for years ago.
Editing cost - nothing.
I bought food and drink for the actors and crew.
Food cost $88.69
I used four rolls of DVM63MQ video tape at $6.25 a tape.
Tape - $25.00
So:
Gas $10.00
Props $15.00
Food $88.69
Tape $25.00
Total Budget $138.69
Fun, satisfaction and personal rewards - priceless.
Yeah, I know I have all the equipment and that's a cheat, but if I'd rented it I still could have made the video for under 3 grand. Part of doing these things is being as creative behind the scenes as you are on screen. Preproduction is always more work than the actual shooting. Having everything cleared and ready before you roll makes life a lot easier and produces a much better final product.
RT
Budgets are relative things.
I restore antique cars as a hobby so all the cars were either mine or owned by friends of mine.
Total cost - 10 bucks for gas.
All the actors worked under the SAG Experimental Film Program. I don't have to pay them until the video makes money - if it ever does.
Total cost - nothing.
All the actors had their own wardrobe. The lead actor, a good friend of mine, went out and bought a 1948 suit at an antique clothing store because he "always wanted one."
The actors also did their own makeup. You may ask why these folks would do all this work for free? Easy, they really liked the script, they know I know what I'm doing, and it gives them a chance to act in something other than a corporate video or a local commercial. Good actors in "non-film" towns are desperate to work in something dramatic. Plus, we're all friends.
Cost - nothing.
The main location was the deserted Municipal Courts building in downtown St. Louis. The city let us use it for free and even provided a city worker on site to help us unlock doors and have access to electricity. The warehouse location is next to a production company where I often freelance. It's above the City Museum and I've shot several videos for the museum. They handed me the key and we had all night to shoot anytime we need to. The street scene with the car is in an alley right next to the museum and we ran extension cords out of the warehouse for power. The apartment was in a renovated 30s building, the display unit. It was decorated in 40's style. We asked the building owner and he let us use it for free.
Total location costs - nothing.
I own a DVX100, tripod, lights (Arri four light kit) and an Avid editing system. I use them everyday in my freelance buisness. I suppose I could charge a small part of their cost back into the video, but they have paid for themselves three times over already.
Equipment cost - nothing.
As far as props go, I own the blank-firing automatic and the dummy Thompson and have for years. Already discussed the cars and wardrobe.
Blank ammo, Kyro surup for blood - total $15.00
Crew. I was DP, camera operator, director and also did all the lighting. My wife and daughter helped with continuity and grip work. My daughter was "boom man" on several shoots and the son of the lead actor handled that chore on several other locations. I fed the sound straight into the DVX, no mixer.
Cost of crew - nothing.
I edited and did all the effects and titles on my Avid, Photoshop and AfterEffects systems in my home office. Bought and paid for years ago.
Editing cost - nothing.
I bought food and drink for the actors and crew.
Food cost $88.69
I used four rolls of DVM63MQ video tape at $6.25 a tape.
Tape - $25.00
So:
Gas $10.00
Props $15.00
Food $88.69
Tape $25.00
Total Budget $138.69
Fun, satisfaction and personal rewards - priceless.
Yeah, I know I have all the equipment and that's a cheat, but if I'd rented it I still could have made the video for under 3 grand. Part of doing these things is being as creative behind the scenes as you are on screen. Preproduction is always more work than the actual shooting. Having everything cleared and ready before you roll makes life a lot easier and produces a much better final product.
RT
Very inspirational! Thanks for the breakdown taylor - now I'm even more impressed!!!