No Charts, but lots of good stuff - Technicolor Cinestyle vs. Neutral Video

Well, there are a few things you can say. Like why you left the cinestyle with greyish blacks and a flat washed out look. The point is not to leave it in this flat form but to show how it looks after grading too. Also you could tell us what your in-camera settings are on the neutral image, because that certainly doesn't look like -4 sharpness, -4 contrast and -2 saturation.

Unless, I am missing something and you have graded these two and you actually like the current look of the Cinestyle image. In which case 9 people out of 10 would prefer the contrast and saturation in the image on the right.
 
Can't tell what you're saying here? Of course natural style looks better without correction.

Cheer,
Pete
 
I Think the OP is trying to say that cinestyle gives a better starting point for post grading than what neutral can give. Running his footage on the timeline I think the neutral is how I expect it to be. Putting it beside cinestyle does make it appear 'contrastier' now.

What I like about the new cinestyle as compared to previous flat styles is that the "skin tones" is recoverable and doesnt suffer the claylike/chalklike color bias and texture, that made me use neutral from then on.

However, this style now provides us with additional "tricks" up our sleeve for shooting.
 
Great test. I still can't believe we actually thought neutral was truly neutral before. So much saturation and the blacks are crushed and unrecoverable!
 
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yoclay said:
Well, there are a few things you can say. Like why you left the cinestyle with greyish blacks and a flat washed out look. The point is not to leave it in this flat form but to show how it looks after grading too. Also you could tell us what your in-camera settings are on the neutral image, because that certainly doesn't look like -4 sharpness, -4 contrast and -2 saturation.
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I did not grade the image, what I did do is to apply some sharpening, but with the same settings to both the videos, Neutral and Cinestyle.

The settings you quoted are not the factory settings for neutral, they are 0, 0, 0, 0. That's what I used.

c3hammer said:
Can't tell what you're saying here? Of course natural style looks better without correction.

Cheer,
Pete
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Well, not so sure about that - if you look at RAW video a lot, you start to like stuff like this... :)

teddybear said:
I Think the OP is trying to say that cinestyle gives a better starting point for post grading than what neutral can give. Running his footage on the timeline I think the neutral is how I expect it to be. Putting it beside cinestyle does make it appear 'contrastier' now.

What I like about the new cinestyle as compared to previous flat styles is that the "skin tones" is recoverable and doesnt suffer the claylike/chalklike color bias and texture, that made me use neutral from then on.

However, this style now provides us with additional "tricks" up our sleeve for shooting.
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Excactly, and agreed... :)
 
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