Nikon D7100 with Blackmagic Hyperdeck Shuttle 2.

rigs

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Here is my experience with the Nikon D7100 using a Blackmagic Hyperdeck Shuttle 2.

First off you can only get a clean full frame HDMI signal with the D7100 set to live video mode, live picture mode outputs a cropped 720 size image only. The output of the D7100 can be clean with no menus and is full frame with no cropping edges as seen with a Nikon D600. You have to select the clean output via the D7100 info button. Unfortunately you cannot record with the two units simultaneously. If you push record on the D7100 the HDMI output changes to a 720p output however the Hyperdeck Shuttle will record a full frame image but only at 720p 59.94fps. One strang thing I found was that even though I had the D7100 HDMI output set to 1080p and the record format set to 24p (high) the Hyperdeck Shuttle only recorded at 29.97p. There is no direct setting for frame rate that you can select on the Hyperdeck Shuttle so I’m not sure if the unit is recording 23.98Psf or the D7100 is only outputting a 29.97p signal. There is no interruption to the live view on the D7100 when you record or stop recording with the Hyperdeck Shuttle, it performs seamlessly and fast. Both DX and 1.3 crop modes work with the Hyperdeck Shuttle which is a nice bonus for that extra punch. The punch in for focus still works and If you switch the menu on or change the info button the Hyperdeck Shuttle still records but at a cropped 720 size image. It can be kinf of handy to have all the record info imbedded for a few frame on each clip then switch to a clean output.

Overall there is an increase in resolution using the Hyperdeck Shuttle over the D7100 internal recording. Gone are any internal codec compression artefacts, along with any mud like smoothing in saturation that pops up with the internal codec. The motion cadence is smooth and very much the same as the internal codec. I found that there is a slight lift in gama with the Hyperdeck Shuttle recordings. And even though the Hyperdeck Shuttle records in 10bit, I still see some 8 bit colour banding in some of the images. The Hyperdeck Shuttle recorded audio from the D7100 over the HMDI which is a bonus and a workflow pain at the same time. Its more related to the DNxHD 220x format that stores 16 channels of audio with the Quicktime file. Thus making it a chore to use in Avid and will not import directly into After effects. I ended up deleting the audio tracks using Quicktime Pro and resaving the file, which then allowed me to use them properly in both applications. One of the reasons for using the Blackmagic Hyperdeck Shuttle 2 was my hope to be able to record in a native format for Avid MC editing. I was looking for a faster workflow that I wouldn’t have to transcode or alter the source material. Unfortunately the DNxHD 220x format and its 16 channel audio presents a slower workflow and work around then importing the D7100 internal H264 files directly into Avid MC or After Effects.

In the end I did find the boost in overall quality to be very good using the D7100 with the Hyperdeck Shuttle 2 compared to the D7100 internal H264 codec. I find that it could be worth the extra setup, data space and workflow in some of my broadcast work. I do have another issue with the D7100 and its sibling D5200 and the fixed horizontal pattern noise it produces in shadow contrast areas and this seems to be a characteristic of the sensor at even low ISO’s in well lit scenes. I had hoped that for some reason it might have been an internal recording codec issue or somehow it was generated while recording or related to some other camera setting. But unfortunately it is not and the HFPN is very prominent with an uncompressed recording and shows up with even more detail compared to it being slightly smoothed out somewhat by the internal D7100 recording.
 
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Thanks for your detailed report, rigs. The Hyperdeck Shuttle sounds like a good partner for the D7100. A few more questions:

* How long will the D7100 operate in Live View video mode before its internal heat sensor switches it off?
* Does the D7100 HDMI output clean 1080p in 25 and 30 fps video modes as well?
* Is the D7100 HDMI out filtered by the selected Picture Profile?
* Would recording in ProRes HQ produce videos with stereo audio that can be imported into After Effects?
* Can you tell whether the D7100 HDMI out is full-range or studio-swing color space?
* Can you select full-range vs studio-swing color space in either DNxHD or ProRes recording modes?
 
* How long will the D7100 operate in Live View video mode before its internal heat sensor switches it off?
Not sure I only recorded in short lengths up to 1 minute at the most

* Does the D7100 HDMI output clean 1080p in 25 and 30 fps video modes as well?
Yes the output is clean for 25, 24 and 30 fps. However 60i and 50i (available in 1.3 crop mode only) and 720p 60 & 50 camera modes did not output full frame and the camera LCD went blank when set to this mode and outputted to the Hyperdeck Shuttle 2. I tried to change the D7100 HDMI output to correspond with each mode as well as auto mode, but that didn't change the frame size recorded.

* Is the D7100 HDMI out filtered by the selected Picture Profile?
You can change different picture profiles on the fly and they are recorded as too the one you select.

* Would recording in ProRes HQ produce videos with stereo audio that can be imported into After Effects?
Pro rez also records 16 channels of audio in the Hyperdeck Shuttle 2 clips. I did disable tracks 3-16 in quicktime pro and was able to import the files into AE after that.

* Can you tell whether the D7100 HDMI out is full-range or studio-swing color space?
In Avid MC it seems to be studio swing @ 7.5 -100 ire or 16-235.

* Can you select full-range vs studio-swing color space in either DNxHD or ProRes recording modes?
You can only select the QT recording format with the Hyperdek software tool connected to a PC, there is no internal adjustments and you can only select one format at a time, either uncompressed, DNxHD MXF, DNxHD QT or Pro rez QT. There is no additional format options available.
 
rigs,

Thanks for the update. I have to say that it sounds like you are not removing the pulldown. Which would mean that you're actually looking at interlaced footage in MC or AE.
 
Yes, very helpful, especially your audio workflow solution via Quicktime Pro. As for the fixed pattern noise, I have a hunch it's a side effect of the algorithm used to downsample the 24Mpix data to 1080p. If so, it may be possible to suppress the FPN by manipulating the gamma curve with a suitable picture profile. If you have time, here's a test you could run to see if it makes any difference:

* Download the Nikon Gamma Controls here: Nikon Gamma Controls
* Install the gamma curves and take identical videos using Gamma 1.0 and Gamma 0.7
* Import the clips into After Effects in 32-bit mode.
* On the Gamma 0.7 clip, apply the Levels effect and set the Gamma slider to 0.7

Adjusting the gamma of the Gamma 0.7 clip in AE should make its exposure look nearly identical to the Gamma 1.0 clip. You can then compare the shadow details to see if there is any perceptible difference in FPN between the two clips. If there is, it means that picture profiles are internally processed at 24Mpix resolution before the frame is downsampled to 1080p, and the FPN is produced by the downsampling.
 
Yes, very helpful, especially your audio workflow solution via Quicktime Pro. As for the fixed pattern noise, I have a hunch it's a side effect of the algorithm used to downsample the 24Mpix data to 1080p. If so, it may be possible to suppress the FPN by manipulating the gamma curve with a suitable picture profile.

White balance settings make a big difference to the FPN on the D5200, picture profiles to a lesser extent.
 
I had to download the free codec pacs from AVID in order to use the ProRes and DNxHD files on my PC
I also downloaded the trial version of AVID.
While it was still importing files to AVID, I had a burnt DVD or Blue Ray disc in my hand from PowerDirector 11.

You cannot record on any Nikon DSLR that I know of at the same time as on the Shuttle II without downgrading the signal to 720 at 59.97 fps.
However if you record to the HyperDeck only, you will get what your camera is set for and what is on your external monitor that is plugged to the Shuttle II.

I have recorded for over two hours uninterrupted and this was the main reason I bought the HyperDeck.
I am using an Anker, as the internal battery only goes one hour
I assume you could go longer if the camera also had a battery pack and you used a larger SSD.

I downloaded MediaInfo to analysis my recordings.
Based on that and improved workflow I use DNxHD 220
If HyperDeck comes out with a fourth format somewhere between that and the in-camera commpression, I would like to try it.
I don't know how many 100+ GigaByte files I can afford to store on my PC.
 
I use 30P for my "Home Movies" because most of it is viewed from a DVD on a TV
and also I do not like the rolling shutter effect.

However, when 1080P at 60fps is available, I may use it to produce Blue Ray Disc.
 
I am looking at purchasing a D7100 or a GH3. Do we know for sure if the D7100 have a clean 4:2:2 out of the HDMI is it 4:2:0? Its hard to find a correct answer because different people keep saying different things.
 
As far as I know it is 4:2:2. The coming week I will have a Pix 220 which I am going to test with my Nikon 7100 and I can report back on the quality of the footage.
 
I don't think many DSLRs output 10 bit. The GH4 does, that's the only one I know of. D7100 had some tests on vimeo where the Ninja clearly showed some extreme color blocking, like intense red lights against dark backgrounds.
 
When the D5300 came out, I bought it for the 1080 P60 recording and will not be going back.
It is far better and the D5300 can do Video at twice the ISO of the D7100 thanks to the more optimized Sensor and Expeed 4.
I now also have a GH4 do to the unlimited internal recording and much better AFF. I use it mostly for unattended 1080 P60 Videos.
I did not sell my D5300 but am waiting for the Atomos Shogun.
However if a D7200 comes out with unlimited recording time, I will get that instead.
 
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