Nikon D3300 announced, 1080p 60p with kit-lens for 650$

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stokstad

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This could be interesting! If it gives the same video as d5300 it will be the best value DSLR i have seen, might even sell my D800E..
 
it seems to be yet another different sensor (at least that's what they claim, but they always do so, even when it's a re-used one), so it's not easy to extrapolate from the D5300, but on paper it looks pretty good: 1080p60/50/30/25/24, and basically just like the D5300
 
I think it is only the usa website that list the sensor size to be different from the D5300 one. The other list the same size and megapixel and no anti aliasing sensor. So I guest it must be the same senson and they both share the expeed 4 processing engine. It would be nice to know if it has uncompressed output from its hdmi output. It would be quite phenomenal at this price range 422 220 mbit prores, Cinema 35 mm, phenomenal low light and 12 stop of DR.
 
If its a different one, maybe its even better videowise! Seems to be the inheret logic of Nikon video-market that the cheaper the camera, the better the video-capabilities :)

Would be a perfect 2nd to my D800, for many applications where you would not risk the more expensive body, like an actioncam with the 60p and lightweight. Also without moire would be great for the deep focus wideshots that the D800 is not so convincing in.
 
reasonably clean
maybe a bit more aliasing than on the D5200? no moire, though, at least I haven't seen it
 
huge pixelation in those sample videos, looks nearly like upsampled SD
maybe there's something wrong with how my browser is playing them, but I would wait until an experienced video shooter gets his hands on the thing
 
Danielvilliers said:
It would be quite phenomenal at this price range 422 220 mbit prores, Cinema 35 mm, phenomenal low light and 12 stop of DR.
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If that's the case, it'll be about the only DSLR putting out 422 via HDMI until the GH4 is out. Far as I know, they're all 8-bit 420 in a 422 wrapper. I've yet to see any tests of Nikon or Canon footage showing 422. Don't know about the MKiii though. Atomos is well aware of this by now, but since their stuff can record 422, they keep mentioning it in their marketing for the DSLR market.

Now, the GH4 and a Ninja... that interests me.
 
maarek said:
And the proof for this is what? Why would they be 420?

The difference between 422 and 420 when shooting natural stuff is very subtle. You would need a chroma chart to be absolutely sure.
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My only "proof" is spending 6 months researching whether a Ninja was worth it for image quality (IQ alone; the Ninja's certainly valuable for large media, recording time, etc., none of which I need). I've seen enough comparison tests to agree with every tester who's seriously worked with the footage. It's not 4-2-2 chroma sampling. Don't have the link but someone did extensive tests between a Nikon/Ninja setup and a BMC. The Nikon's chroma sampling was readily apparent.

I'm not concerned with the difference when shooting "natural stuff" - I do a lot of keying, motion graphics, camera tracking, compositing, & animation, and I need true 422 1080 (or larger frame 420, like 2.5 or 4k) at up to 60p. The D7100 pulls the best keys I've gotten with a sub $2k camera, about to test the 5300 since it has 1080.

Of course, my needs or your natural-footage observations have nothing to do with whether Nikon's HDMI output is 420 or 422. It either is or it isn't. I haven't seen a single test that shows that it is.
 
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