Next A7s most likely with 5-axis too!

D

dsp_418

Active member
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-says-5-axis-is-very-likely-to-be-on-future-models-too/

Some complains I'm hearing after all these news is that Sony customers end up with a short life-cycle product that, after maybe a year, doesn't hold up very well a second hand market, making them less valuable in case one wants to sell them out.
I've mixed feelings about this situation: Canon it's just stagnant and well dead for what concerns any dslr-video product, but on the other side they built a solid image and old Canon cameras still sell pretty well after years. Sony, on the other side, is pushing the technology and improving their products at a fast pace, but I guess doesn't feel good buying a brand new Sony product today and seeing the same product within a year getting replaced bye a new one making the previous one less valuable (of course only in terms of money).
 
Last edited:
Yeah the A7s just came out a couple of months ago. Let it lie for a couple of years before introducing a new model, Sony.
 
* That's not even a rumor, it's anybody's guess.
* The a7s-II will probably be out in summer 2015, basically identical to the current one but with IBIS. My a7s won't automatically stop working... And I'll probably be able to sell+buy and get IBIS at a $500 net cost. Would take it today if it was available.
 
The primary issue with the camera wont be solved by IBIS. That is rolling shutter.
It is not the same thing. Stabilized jello, is still jello.
 
Samuel H said:
The a7s-II will probably be out in summer 2015, basically identical to the current one but with IBIS
Click to expand...
This is my guess, too; but I think it might have either touch-screen or builtin ND filters, too, less likely internal 4K. Or, as yoclay suggested maybe a new processor/sensor against skew.
It's a miraculous mystery, how Sony was able to kee this IBIS development secret, though. Very hard to guess any more.
 
Last edited:
I have given up on this race for the latest tech.

There is a thread over on another forum about what clients really care about when it comes to paying for a professional video. And the main bullet points can be met with nearly any of the older models, let alone the newer cameras in the market. As professionals we are getting a warped sense of reality thinking we need to buy the latest camera upon release and forgetting that most, if not some of us are trying to run profitable business.

I won't be switching from my current camcorders until 5 years have passed and I have made as much money as I can from it. I don't recall any one ever complaining about the gear I am using.
 
For sure, the competition is hard and when I buy a camera today, I know that her life circle is limited if I want to stay in the race and beat my competitors. But Sony is exceptinal because there is no serious modell refinement to keep elder modells in the game.
Ok,ok thats business but where is the boundary? Today I can make a decent movie with an iPhone and the quality is probably better than ten years ago on semi-profesionell video cameras. This made people come under pressure (if you try to earn some money in this job). Speaking of apple: You dont need to be a friend of that company, but what that company has every other advance is, that they take care for there products. And when the new IOS 8 came out, you can be sure that it will work with your old iPhone 4s.
(more than less :-)) this is followed by others should take an example. Thanks to people like magic lantern: Since they took over the airspace above a camera like the 5D MKII, they gave this camera a few years more as a kind of respected workhorse in HD video.
Nevertheless the 5D MK III seems to have been well sold. Thats what I would expect from a customer-oriented company.
Benn
 
I'm on the fence about IBIS. I seem to remember using one of the earlier A-Mount Sony cameras for a day and noticing that it was still a little shaky in the viewfinder unlike Optical Stabilized lenses which were smoother through the viewfinder. This was about 6 years ago and things may be different, but even in the Footage shown of the A7-II there were micro jitters that would drive my nuts if I were relying on that for stabilization.

I love my A7s, and would love to be proven wrong.
 
I strongly disagree. As long as the new cameras included features that improve my ability to shoot and produce quality films, then please bring them on. It puts pressure on the other brand to keep up too, and the competition is good for all of us.

IMHO nowadays you have to count on a 1-year lifespan for any camera you buy, and if you're lucky it will still be worth half of what you paid for it. This will probably continue for the next several years. It's annoying, but imagine where we'll be in another 5 years! Micro sized, full-frame sensor A9sII with ISO of 200,000 that's noiseless, Raw 6K recording, 120fps, ultra-stabilized, in-camera HDR with 14 stops of range, etc... Meanwhile Canon will just be getting around to 4K internal by then.
 
Samuel H said:
* That's not even a rumor, it's anybody's guess.
* The a7s-II will probably be out in summer 2015, basically identical to the current one but with IBIS. My a7s won't automatically stop working... And I'll probably be able to sell+buy and get IBIS at a $500 net cost. Would take it today if it was available.
Click to expand...
+1

Producers still ask for...

Sony f3
5dmk2
Cx00

...by name.


On a side/personal note: These cameras are getting to the point it is about self satisfaction now. I will personally start upgrading when I see a notable improvement over the 5dmk2. Up till very very recently, that has not happened. There is really nothing that beats the three cameras I mentioned above for 90% of what we do. Manufacturers will need to address this in order for me to start jumping with money again. If you didn't buy a 5d in the beginning, then any camera you buy now is fine. If you have a 5d, there is little reason to upgrade (same goes for the f3 and cx00 etc)
 
Last edited:
+1 on the self-satisfaction thing.

Of everything I've shot so far, the shots that have gathered the most attention are this this. When I shot them, I had the camera prepared for shooting indoors, but I was outdoors, and had no time to add filters, so I just broght down aperture and shot. I made a big judgement mistake and they came out unbelievably overexposed. Really horrible. I couldn't bring anything back to life. I almost left the clips out of the edit. But I know this girl and her great creation wouldn't be on my video if I did that, so I thought I'd just lower my image quality standards and apologize to her for the screwd-up image. She loved the clips, she made those GIFs out of them, and everybody in the cosplay and LoL communities went nuts over them. I was the only one caring about the shitty overexposed image with deep DoF and horrible colors.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top