NEX7 as GH2 rival

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http://dvxuser.com/content.php?183-Sony-NEX7-to-rival-GH2-in-September

Any thoughts on this?

edit: I just realised it links back to here, is this a problem with eoshd links, as i've seen it happen before? I'll replace the lnik, but if that doesnt work, go to dvxuser.com and it should be the first link. I'll just copy and paste the article in, there's a picture, but it's irrelevant to the article.

The mirrorless E mount NEX 7 will follow Sony's next release above - HD video capable Alpha cameras.

In February when rumours of the NEX series first trickled in, we also had information about a NEX 7 as well as the 5 and 3 series. The numbering appears to mirror the Alpha range. Can we also expect a 9 series NEX camera?

Today I received more info from the same source as last time, who got the NEX 3 and 5 specs bang on right.

There is no NEX 9 planned but there is a NEX 7.

The NEX 7 addresses the missing enthusiast features from the NEX 5.

Full manual control
1080p@60
1080p@24
720p@120fps and 60p
Revised sensor design

720p at 120fps will be absolutely must-have. The faster sensor is not a global shutter design like the GH2, but allows 120fps in 720p mode for super slow-mo, mirroring what's possible with current compact CMOS sensors at 640x480. This is a great achievement for an APS-C sized chip. The codec will not be XDCam as rumoured in February, instead sticking to AVCHD at a higher 24mbps bit rate.

Remember this is still a consumer grade camera, so XDCam is 'not a suitable format' according to my source. Oh well.

In body stabilisation returns - the larger body enables this to fit, whilst the main aim for the NEX 5's body was thinness and a consumer orientated sexy design.

Next question - why no simultaneous release with the NEX 3 and 5? Well, two reasons were stated - Firstly, Sony want to equip it with a more capable sensor, which is not yet ready. Secondly, Sony want to get the new Alpha HD range out of the door first - these are traditional mirror-box DSLRs, continuing the existing Alpha 5xx and 7xx series but with the addition of AVCHD HD video and a better sensor - the new 'Exmor HD'.

I think that also there is a third reason Sony are keeping the release date of the NEX 7 under-wraps, which my source was a bit too coy to mention! There is a bit of brinkmanship with Panasonic. An early release date means development has to stop and the camera has to ship. Whoever has longest to spend on development, has a good chance of winning the technical race, a bit like in a Formula One off-season. So whilst Photokina in September is the rough target for both companies, both are trying to 2nd guess each other as to exactly when they will pull the trigger and finish development on the NEX 7 and GH2.

These cameras are as exciting as the race is close.

Although an announcement and prototype is expected at Photokina, the release date will more likely be November and affected by last minute changes to Panasonic's final GH2 schedule. Sony are in the position to react because the GH2's development has very aggressive targets, and global shutter may result in the schedule slipping. The NEX 7 is simply more of an evolution of the existing cameras, with the 2nd generation of Sony's Exmor HD sensor.

So will Panasonic drop the global shutter for the GH3 and shove the GH2 out of the door with a tweaked GH1-style sensor to compete with Sony? I certainly hope not, plus a lot of work in planning media strategies to market Progressive HD has already been done in Asia. ('Global shutter' is a tech term much harder for the general public to digest, so Progressive HD it is)

Ergonomically, the NEX 7 is quite different to the 3 and 5. According to my source it has the overall appearance of a mirrorless A550, much smaller with an e-mount and yes - EVF! As to be expected really. Same AF system as NEX 5, that is to say - contrast detection based.

Sony also have new E-mount lenses in development but my source would not be drawn on what they are. There is however some 'very good reasons' for the silent OIS and AF in the new e-mount lenses - the primary one is video. Iris control is also provided by a silent stepper motor in the E-mount lens series, just as with the Panasonic HD optimised 14-140mm for the GH1.

So don't worry - Sony has the future in mind for this system, and the disappointing video mode found on the GF1-a-like NEX 5 is not the end of the story where 2010 is concerned.

Good news!

PS - if you're wondering where Canon are in all of this. They have technology under development, but are waiting to see where the cards fall elsewhere. Panasonic and Sony - to big rivals, have now shown their hand. So the path is now a bit clearer for Canon and Nikon to respond with better products, ahead of time. Look for Canon announcement around October, if not earlier!
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Probably referring to the original rumor that came out with the NEX3 and NEX5. Being that the rumor posted in February has been reasonably accurate on the NEX3/5, the NEX7 rumor could be as well. Logically, Sony should be planning a higher-end E-mount camera since NEX3/5 are priced relatively low compared to the competition.

“NEX 7
Design totally different to NEX5/3, and more bigger size
Spec unknown yet
Support XDCAM recording format
soonest release is on Sept, unless Panasonic announce GH2
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http://sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-nex-7-camera-in-september-and-new-3xx-alphas-in-june/
 
xdcam is a weird format to use unless this is from the Professional division i.e. z1, nxcam, ex1

avchd would be more appropriate if its on the consumer division since it plays back on bluray
 
Theirs no screwup in the link at all. It's just that theirs a bad relationship between this site and the other site so any link to that site wont work.
 
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I completely agree.
Both GH2 rumors and especially NEX7 are pure speculations taken out of nowhere.
All rumor related guys are out of loop, and all serious review sites are in the loop.
Buy they need to write something. About 90% of writings come from regular forums scanning.
 
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tester13 said:
Andrew is it you ? :-)
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LOL tester13. No not the same guy, but I believe dcloud is in the wrong position to critisise. What's his contribtion to the net?

Like my papa always used to say "if you can't say anything nice about someone, don't say anything at all"
 
NEXt said:
LOL tester13. No not the same guy, but I believe dcloud is in the wrong position to critisise. What's his contribtion to the net?

Like my papa always used to say "if you can't say anything nice about someone, don't say anything at all"
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I believe his main contribution is that he do not produce that information product that Andrew produce.
 
its not about contribution to the internet but dispersing speculation versus facts. rumors site posts rumor levels.

His site is a personal opinion and mostly second hand news.
He is reporting rumors/speculation as news-- which is false imo.

whats the point of contributing rumors? Unless I have real hand insiders, I wont be making a rumors site.

plus I dont see your point of with his videomaking abilities with a gh1 and having a rumor site..... :| "if you can shoot really well in gh1 your a believable rumors site?"
(to my defense i have my own reel but thats not the point)
p.s. I would love to see some footage that isnt philip bloom-ish. (ooh! still life shot but in video form)

finally, i was voicing my opinion on what i think of eos-hd. im sorry and i will rephrase what i said... In My Opinion, Eos-hd is kinda unreliable. Most of his news are secondhand or if its from him its bs.
 
Even with all that shaky and awful camera work, there aren't any issues with mud! If you're interested in a more scientific approach than that, and dotting the I, P and B's, this fact is also confirmed by our friend Vitaliy who has been analysing the I,P,B frames of the NEX5's .MTS stream.

The codec is a better implementation of AVCHD than on the Panasonic GH1. Also, the codec does use B frames, unlike the GH1.

However since the GH1 bins pixels and downscales the entire image (in a crude way), the Sony NEX appears to follow the even more quick and dirty line skipping technique employed also by the Canon EOS HDSLRs. So the GH1 still wins the aliasing and moire contest.
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Isnt' he pretty? Just reposting forum posts on this site?
I believe he is. :kali:
 
NEXt said:
LOL tester13. No not the same guy, but I believe dcloud is in the wrong position to critisise. What's his contribtion to the net?

Like my papa always used to say "if you can't say anything nice about someone, don't say anything at all"
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could have fooled me... the info I have on hand, gives me enough evidence to believe otherwise...
 
LOL. Ouch. Thats gotta sting. Even go to the point of pretending to be someone else and say something like hes talented. New low.
 
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