Newbie question on wireless mic

to @AlexLF some questions.
How big is the auditorium?
How many people does it hold?
How long is the performance?

What sort of band is it?
How far away is the mixer form your camera position?
Are the band/mixing desk using radio mics?

What is the purpose of the video?
Does it really need stereo?

These are the very first things that came to mind. We don't know enough about the type of performance nor the venue to be able to give proper advice. From what I've been reading this sounds like a concert. Is this correct? If so, what kind? Rock band? Jazz Band? Orchestra? I also saw the phrase "musical" thrown in there, and that's a completely different beast.

I've done stuff like this before, but in order to help I'd need to know exactly what type of performance this is, as well as what is being used for live sound reinforcement. Is there a FOH mixer? What kind? How many channels of audio are they mixing (number of mics)? Can you take a board feed? Are they running technical rehearsals ahead of time or a sound check?

When I've done live orchestral recording I do an X/Y setup on a stand above the orchestra right behind the conductor and run that to my mixer, and then recorder. 2 tracks usually just fine for this. For a live band I'd take a feed from the FOH mixer. This feed is usually sent on an aux send from the board that is a line level out 2 channel mix. The FOH board will dictate and the person operating it will dictate how this comes to you. If it's aux sends you need to be careful because many live mixers have a separate mix for the aux sends than they do for the main mix to the house mains. Some mixers have a separate stereo send. For example, I've run boards that have XLR or quarter inch outputs for the main L/R audio sends to the main speakers, and then there will be another set of outputs with the same signal on something like quarter inch or eighth inch, or RCA, or some other connector. So, in order to be able to have the proper cables you need to know what the board does.

As you can see, there are lots of variables, which is why communication with the FOH mixer before hand is really important. You need to communicate what you are doing and what they are willing to send you. Some FOH mixers don't want to be bothered with doing a separate mix for aux sends because that's another thing they have to deal with on top of everything else they are doing. Some don't mind.

You can take the outputs of the FOH mixer and run those into a wireless transmitter and send that to receivers on the camera. I honestly prefer to do that hardwired, though.

To be honest with you, if it were me doing this, I'd have an audio feed that goes to camera, and that'd be just a scratch track, and I'd record the audio on a separate audio recorder, but that requires more equipment and the know-how to use it all and manage it all.
 
I believe the WiFi band uses spread-spectrum. No way you could get all those devices working in the same band otherwise, that I know of.

Spread-spectrum uses varying time bases and algorithms to allow many users on the same frequency band. The signal is bounced around in the order set by the algorithm on the microsecond from the time base. The signal would have to be on the same algorithm and the same exact microsecond to interfere with another. Now, in the real world the signals do sometimes intersect, but that only causes a microsecond or so of interference. That means that thousands of signals can use the same frequency band at the same time.
 
I believe the WiFi band uses spread-spectrum. No way you could get all those devices working in the same band otherwise, that I know of. That means that thousands of signals can use the same frequency band at the same time.

How many people in the hall? Each one with a phone that has wifi and blue tooth...... :-)
 
For the record - I have 6 channels of 2.4GHz wireless mics working fine, on top I have both lighting and sound people using the same band for their iPad control of their kit. The wireless is faultless, the iPads occasionally drop out.
 
How many people in the hall? Each one with a phone that has wifi and blue tooth...... :-)

It sounds bad but reports from the field have been very good even in very crowded large venues. Something that can't be said for UHF in places like Broadway NYC.

I don't pretend to know how it works but reports have been good. What it doesn't have is the range of a good UHF set.
 
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