New Panasonic FF EVA2 NAB 2020 ???

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tillhavis

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Ok this is just a prediction but I think we will probably see an updated FF EVA2 this NAB.

I predict it will have many of the features I mentioned in my idea cinema camera thread, and Panasonic will
position it as the main competition to the Canon C500II, FX9, and possibly a new modular FF Blackmagic Cinema Camera I predict we will see released at NAB.

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?362432-The-Perfect-Filmmakers-Camera

I predict this new camera will be priced under 10K and will contain more features and bang for buck than either the C500 II
or FX9, something Panasonic does with their newer products (S1H and GH5 for example)

I think this new camera will go all out and will have updated and impressive AF and Face tracking plus
improved electronic IBIS.

I also predict it will have similar live streaming capabilities as seen in their new XC10 camcorder.
The XC10 camcorder proves you can get a hell of a lot of features in a very small body.

My Predictions

Panasonic S1 FF Sensor
Interchangeable L Mount with adaptors available for other lenses systems
Internal 6k-4K 10bit 4:2:2 Recording without crop (24-25fps minimum)
Internal 6k-4K Raw without crop (24-25fps minimum)
2 x CFastExpress Slots

Dual IS / improved Electronic IBIS
Dual Pixel AF or Much improved AF including face tracking
2 x XLR’s
4"-5” Daylight viewable fully articulating touchscreen LCD
Built in ND’s 6-10 stops

1 X SDI Input/ Output
1 x HDMI Input/ Output
1 x Timecode/Sync Multicam
1 X USBC
1 x Headphone Jack

Wireless Control via smart device including live preview
Live Streaming
Improved Handgrip
6-7 User assignable function buttons
Improved HFR control (possibly via a dedicated button)
One push AF and Auto Control for run and gun situations.


Ok this is my take; most of these features should be possible given the features included on the new Canon C500 II.
NAB 2020 should be very interesting, and I wouldn't be surprised if Blackmagic Design throws a curveball into the equation
with a smaller modular FF camera for about 6K.
Time will tell !
 
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I don't expect to see any EVA2 until after a new VariCam ~ 2021 or 2022 at the earliest. Usually 3-4 years for updated models.

tillhavis said:
Ok this is just a prediction but I think we will probably see an updated FF EVA2 this NAB.

I predict it will have many of the features I mentioned in my idea cinema camera thread, and Panasonic will
position it as the main competition to the Canon C500II, and possibly a new modular Blackmagic Cinema Camera I predict we will see released at NAB.

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?362432-The-Perfect-Filmmakers-Camera

I predict this new camera will be priced about 10K and will contain more features and bang for buck than either the C500 II
or FS9, something Panasonic does with their newer products (S1H and GH5 for example)

I think this new camera will go all out and will have updated and impressive AF and Face tracking plus
improved electronic IBIS.

I also predict it will have similar live streaming capabilities as seen in their new XC10 camcorder.
The XC10 camcorder proves you can get a hell of a lot of features in a very small body.

My Predictions

Panasonic S1 FF Sensor
Interchangeable L Mount
Internal 6k-4K 10bit 4:2:2 Recording without crop (24-25fps minimum)
Internal 6k-4K Raw without crop (24-25fps minimum)
2 x CFastExpress Slots

Dual IS / improved Electronic IBIS
Dual Pixel AF or Much improved AF including face tracking
2 x XLR’s
4-5” Daylight viewable fully articulating touchscreen LCD
Built in ND’s 6-10 stops

1 X SDI Input/ Output
1 x HDMI Input/ Output
1 x Timecode/Sync Multicam
1 X USBC
1 x Headphone Jack

Wireless Control via smart device including live preview
Live Streaming
Improved Handgrip
6-7 User assignable function buttons
Improved HFR control (possibly via a dedicated button)
One push AF and Auto Control for run and gun situations.


Ok this is my take; most of these features should be possible given the features included on the new Canon C500 II.
NAB 2020 should be very interesting, and I wouldn't be surprised if Blackmagic Design throws a curveball into the equation
with a smaller modular FF camera for about 6K.
Time will tell !
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You could be right, these are just my predictions as I don't have any inside info.

However realistically I think the launch of the Canon C500 II, or even the FS9 and Red Komodo (to a lesser extent)
points to faster product update cycles in order to maintain sales and market share.

Given the fact the C500II contains so many advanced features at possibly one of the lowest
price points for Canon (compared to the price of the C700) I think Panasonic has no option but to step up to the mark sooner.

I think we are in new territory here and the market is changing quicker than ever.
This is JMHO but I don't see the market sustaining all these brands, I think the C500 II is a clear signal from Canon that they (finally)
realise that in order to survive and dominate the market they need to lead the way in terms of features
and prices the market is willing to sustain.

Once again this is JMO and time will tell !
 
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I hope you're right, although I doubt they would implement PDAF.

But the AF-100 was released in 2012 and the EVA-1 in 2017, pointing to a longer product cycle than you predict.
 
On the other hand, the BMPCC 4k launched in Sept. 2018 and the BMPCC 6K launched in August 2019, so maybe BlackMagic will surprise us.

BMPCC full-frame, please!
 
IMO, if they are a Japanese company, they can't provide everything. They'll do 2-3 things really well, 1 really badly, and the rest okay.

World-class AF and great IBIS together will never happen*, but the rest is up in the air.

*Or it will happen and you'll be paying a lot of money for it, and chances are something else will be wrong.
 
Mitch Gross said:
Glomar
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"In United States law, the term Glomar response, also known as Glomarization or Glomar denial, refers to a response to a request for information that will "neither confirm nor deny" (NCND) the existence of the information sought."

Interesting choice of terms....
 
If there’s two things I can strenuously add to the list of public demands Mitch:

- C500ii/Venice level boot times (4-5 seconds to be on and recording)
- Venice-style ND (1-8 discrete stops of ND). And if you can’t squeeze that many in, go for a combo that gets you 1-5 discrete stops. Having the precision of 1-5 stops is MUCH more of a time-saver than having a broader range but less precision (like Canon’s 2/4/6/8/10 stops on the C500ii)

Please and thank you!
 
tillhavis said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glomar_Challenger
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Wrong one. The reference comes from the Glomar Explorer, not the Glomar Challenger. The entire story is fascinating and I’ve long thought it would make for a great black comedy. Soviet nuclear sub sinks, only Americans know where and the CIA wants to get their hands on the secrets within. So they concoct a crazy plan to build the Glomar Explorer, a giant ship with a hollow center and a giant grappling hook to grab the sub. They use Black Ops money to pay for it and use the cover story of mining the ocean floor for magnesium nodules, which was totally ridiculous then but now is actually a thing. Who’s crazy & rich enough to act as their cover story? Howard Hughes! So after taking a few years to build this thing they go after the sub, but they end up slamming the grabber too hard into the ocean floor. Halfway through lifting it all up some of the grabber’s arms break and the sub splits apart, so the Americans watch an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile topped with multiple thermonuclear warheads slowly slip out of its berth and plummet into the watery darkness. After several minutes they hear it slam into the sea floor and not detonate. They pull up what little they have left of the sub and hold a funeral for the Soviet sailors they find within. Within a couple years the whole thing gets leaked to the press and there are Congressional hearings. The CIA officials are under security orders that they cannot comment on the existence of the escapade, but they also cannot refuse to testify and they cannot lie to Congress. So a government lawyer came up with the Glomar Response, which is to state that the person “could not confirm or deny” the subject of the question.

So when y’all start talking about this possible stuff my response is simply, “Glomar.” :-)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glomar_Explorer
 
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BTW, the Glomar Explorer was the inspiration for Raise the Titanic, For Your Eyes Only, The Hunt for Red October, and The Abyss. In fact in The Abyss the surface vessel supporting the underwater mining platform is called the Explorer.

Now back to your future camera musings.
 
Mitch Gross said:
Wrong one. The reference comes from the Glomar Explorer, not the Glomar Challenger. The entire story is fascinating and I’ve long thought it would make for a great black comedy. Soviet nuclear sub sinks, only Americans know where and the CIA wants to get their hands on the secrets within. So they concoct a crazy plan to build the Glomar Explorer, a giant ship with a hollow center and a giant grappling hook to grab the sub. They use Black Ops money to pay for it and use the cover story of mining the ocean floor for magnesium nodules, which was totally ridiculous then but now is actually a thing. Who’s crazy & rich enough to act as their cover story? Howard Hughes! So after taking a few years to build this thing they go after the sub, but they end up slamming the grabber too hard into the ocean floor. Halfway through lifting it all up some of the grabber’s arms break and the sub splits apart, so the Americans watch an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile topped with multiple thermonuclear warheads slowly slip out of its berth and plummet into the watery darkness. After several minutes they hear it slam into the sea floor and not detonate. They pull up what little they have left of the sub and hold a funeral for the Soviet sailors they find within. Within a couple years the whole thing gets leaked to the press and there are Congressional hearings. The CIA officials are under security orders that they cannot comment on the existence of the escapade, but they also cannot refuse to testify and they cannot lie to Congress. So a government lawyer came up with the Glomar Response, which is to state that the person “could not confirm or deny” the subject of the question.

So when y’all start talking about this possible stuff my response is simply, “Glomar.” :-)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glomar_Explorer
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Mitch Gross said:
BTW, the Glomar Explorer was the inspiration for Raise the Titanic, For Your Eyes Only, The Hunt for Red October, and The Abyss. In fact in The Abyss the surface vessel supporting the underwater mining platform is called the Explorer.

Now back to your future camera musings.
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Most interesting and entertaining thing I've read today.
 
Very Interesting, I stand corrected. Has the potential to make a good black comedy alright ! Pretty,Pretty expensive I’d say
 
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