New Nikon DL line - premium P&S (including 4K video)

morgan_moore said:
Of course they use 'FF equivilent' for FOV, but not 'FFequivilent' for DOF, a 1in sensor has a lot of DOF at 1.8

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According to [sp] @ nikonrumors: “It's written on the lens 6,7-18,5mm f/1,8-2,8, so if you convert focal length multiplying by 2,7x, don't forget to convert aperture. In FX terms it is: 18-50mm f/4,8-7,5‘

Which makes the 24-85 more desirable if you want to shoot with a shallower depth of field. On paper they look fantastic. We' ll have to wait for samples. Curious about 120fps @ 1080p & 240 @720p.
 
DP Review did a spec comparison between the 24-85 and Sony RX-100IV - not that anyone else couldn't do it - and pointed out that they are essentially the same. The main difference is that the Nikon compact is $300 cheaper, at $650 vs. $950 for Sony. And, in Barbara Walters' spectacular vernacular, "This means wo". (in other words, Nikon is now competing against Sony's 4K compacts full blast, with Panasonic caught in between)

Edit : I forgot to post the link.

http://www.dpreview.com/products/co...ducts=sony_dscrx100m4&products=nikon_dl_24-85
 
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DLD said:
DP Review did a spec comparison between the 24-85 and Sony RX-100IV - not that anyone else couldn't do it - and pointed out that they are essentially the same. The main difference is that the Nikon compact is $300 cheaper, at $650 vs. $950 for Sony. And, in Barbara Walters' spectacular vernacular, "This means wo". (in other words, Nikon is now competing against Sony's 4K compacts full blast, with Panasonic caught in between)

Edit : I forgot to post the link.

http://www.dpreview.com/products/co...ducts=sony_dscrx100m4&products=nikon_dl_24-85
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The Sony comes with a viewfinder. Not everybody will need that, but for people who do, it's worth most of the price difference. And it also has slog2 and XAVC-S. For me, there's no contest, but, of course, I'm a very niche market XD
 
So far five questions are still not answered about Nikon DL series:

- is it uses full sensor for 4K or just crop, like Panasonic FZ1000 or TZ100 (http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/panasonic_lumix_dmc_tz100_review/)

- video bitrate in 4K (Panasonic TZ100: 100 Mbit/s / MP4, Sony Rx100 IV - 100 Mbps/s but with better XAVC-S codec)

- video stabilisation in 4K (Panasonic TZ100 is medium, LX100 is bad, Sony RX100 IV is okay)

- video recording time limit in 4K (Panasonix TZ100 is 5 minute, Sony RX100 IV is 5 minute too, Panasonix LX100 is 15 minute)

- is the 1 inch image sensor based on old Nikon J1 (noisy), or first gen Sony (e.g. cropped in 4k) or the new gen Sony (like the one used in RX100 IV)
 
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fisherman1 said:
So far five questions are still not answered about Nikon DL series:

- is it uses full sensor for 4K or just crop, like Panasonic FZ1000 or TZ100 (http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/panasonic_lumix_dmc_tz100_review/)

- video bitrate in 4K (Panasonic TZ100: 100 Mbit/s / MP4, Sony Rx100 IV - 100 Mbps/s but with better XAVC-S codec)

- video stabilisation in 4K (Panasonic TZ100 is medium, LX100 is bad, Sony RX100 IV is okay)

- video recording time limit in 4K (Panasonix TZ100 is 5 minute, Sony RX100 IV is 5 minute too, Panasonix LX100 is 15 minute)

- is the 1 inch image sensor based on old Nikon J1 (noisy), or first gen Sony (e.g. cropped in 4k) or the new gen Sony (like the one used in RX100 IV)
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What's up with nikon not stating the data bitrate for these new cameras???

I'm really skeptical about Nikon's "marketing" here. :Drogar-BlackEye(DBG
 
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