new mic
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flyingdisc
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Is this your FIRST microphone?
Allan Black
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no worries im gonna get the ntg 2
Good choice, don't forget to register on the Rode site for its free 10yr warranty. Always install a name brand alkaline battery, not a cheap brand.
If you swap over to using phantom power all the time, remove the battery so it doesn't go flat and maybe leak.
Cheers.
yes it is
@Allan will do thanks for the info
this will be my first short film and I will post it here for all you to see and give feed back..
Which mic do you use 90% of the time?
drapeama
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I second that. I personally own one, and it works very well. It's even usable indoor.
I vouch for the PG2. I got it along my NTG2 and both comes recommended from here.
It's "not bad" but it's not the best option. Better to use a Lav indoor at that point, if you can afford a portable recorder with it, could cost around 150$ for a starter kit.what is good for inside then? i was set on the ntg2
what lav do you recommend?
TyFord
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One mic is seldom the right tool for a full production. Here's why..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaUSXP-a3hA
Regards,
Ty Ford
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaUSXP-a3hA
Regards,
Ty Ford
Postmaster
Dark Side of the Camera
thank you for posting this it explained a lot
John Willett
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Yes and no.
A professional microphone is all of the above - but will also be quiet, have low distortion and be consistent between samples.
I don't think there is too much "snobbyness" with microphones. A microphone is mature technology and really good microphones are not cheap to manufacture, which is why they are the price they are.
A good microphone is a good investment and will last many many years and will actually *increase* in value.
A Neumann U47 was £100 when it first came out - you could sell that £100 microphone today for £7-8,000 (maybe more).
Microphones I bought new in the late 1980's are worth double or more now.
By cheap and it will last a few years and then you have to buy all over again.
Yes - "If it sounds good, and you are happy - why not" is true - but, don't forget that a cheap mic. may sound fine to you when you first try it, but will clearly show deficiencies when played back on superior equipment.
So, with microphones it's always worth paying as much as you can afford to get a good one that will last as it will be cheaper in the lobg run.
TyFord
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Noiz2
Sound Ninja
Kind of. Not all have low distortion and not all are particularly quiet. The "color" of some profesional mics (which is a distortion from the "real" sound) is what people chose them for. Some mics are also really finicky about humidity and or need to be handled with kit gloves.
So while I completely agree that build quality is going to be good and consistant in profesional mics and might be dodgy in consumer mics the difference to the consumer user may also not be noticeable. A schoeps mic is certainly a profesional mic but if not handled well and kept clean and dry will sound awful quickly, where a consumer mic can often take considerable abuse and have no noticeable drop in quality. I think the diferences become much greater as the user gets more "profesional".
Are you kidding? This is audio, probably one of the snobbiest groups around. Probably not quite so much with working professionals but certainly with "audiophiles".
The last point was more true years ago than it is today. Twenty years ago absolutely, cheap was generally really bad. With the automated manufacturing done today you can get serious quality far less than it used to cost. The top is still the top and the very bottom is still pretty awful, but the middle has moved up a LOT.
True, but probably more of a point to those who are buying in the $1,000 and up price range. A SM58 is a Profesional" mic and an old one is not going to get you more than the cost of a new one today. Hand built studio mics will certainly hold their value and almost certainly increase in value but this has all been in response to someone who owns and likes an Azden mic so they are probably not too interested in dropping two grand on a mic.
Again not necessarily. A cheap mic may well last longer than a "profesional" mic in a non-professionals hands. The mic you mentioned above won't last long on an amateur shoot in the field. I basically agree with you in a profesional context but that is not the context we are responding to so...
Not necessarily. With "cheap" I would probably agree with "inexpensive" not so much. And we are talking sound for video not a studio recording. It's not going to sound deficient on good speakers because you won't have anything to compare it with. If you have done anything close to an audio post nobody is going to hear it and say "wow they used a cheap mic". In all likely hood a video is going to play on a worse system than the one it was edited on and in a much noisier environment. There are some sounds in BIG films what won awards for sound that were recorded on very inexpensive recorders with very inexpensive mics.
This is not an argument to go cheap but just that the idea that if you don't use high priced equipment then you sound will sound bad if it ever gets played on a big system is false. Your sound TRACK is what will be played and it's the mix of all those sounds that counts. Individual "deficiencies" will for the most part get lost in the wash, or be unnoticeable because film with very few exceptions is not about the sound, it's about the whole.
I would put the focus more on finding the mic that best suits your needs and then IF you have to spend as much as you can afford to get that mic go for it. IF the mic that best fit's your needs is much less than "as much as you can" pay then go for that and save the rest for when you need to spend more.
There is a tendency among sound folks to collect mics. We love them and there different tones and how one sounds on X, etc. We tend to really covet those fantastic studio mics you have to treat like they were royalty. But that is us. I personally have ??? probably at least thirty mics of various types. Most I hardly ever use. I wouldn't buy an Azden mic. It's not snobbery but I can hear the noise and I have much better mics. If it really sounded awful I might pick one up used just for that affect, but (from what I have heard) they are not awful.