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Noiz2
Sound Ninja
Do a forum search. The question is basically un answerable because you haven't said what you want to do with the mic. But if you do a search you will fine a bazillion threads like this and pick one that looks like it's talking about the kind of stuff you want to do.
You could get more specific here but the odds are that you will still get pointed to searching because this must be the most asked question here and most of the time it's just about this vague.
I have some money and I want to get an operation, what operation should I get? See the problem.
You could get more specific here but the odds are that you will still get pointed to searching because this must be the most asked question here and most of the time it's just about this vague.
I have some money and I want to get an operation, what operation should I get? See the problem.
unclebob6958
Well-known member
What kind of mic are you looking for? An LDC? Shotgun? Hyper?
I think you mean "which."
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which
[hwich, wich] Show IPA
pronoun 1. what one?: Which of these do you want? Which do you want?
2.whichever: Choose which appeals to you.
3.(used relatively in restrictive and nonrestrictive clauses to represent a specified antecedent): The book, which I read last night, was exciting. The socialism which Owen preached was unpalatable to many. The lawyer represented five families, of which the Costello family was the largest.
4.(used relatively in restrictive clauses having that as the antecedent): Damaged goods constituted part of that which was sold at the auction.
5.(used after a preposition to represent a specified antecedent):the horse on which I rode.
6.(used relatively to represent a specified or implied antecedent)the one that; a particular one that: You may choose which you like.
7.(used in parenthetic clauses) the thing or fact that: He hung around for hours and, which was worse, kept me from doing my work.
8.Nonstandard. who or whom: a friend which helped me move; the lawyer which you hired.
adjective
9.what one of (a certain number or group mentioned or implied)?:Which book do you want?
10.whichever; any that: Go which way you please, you'll end up here.
11.being previously mentioned: It stormed all day, during which time the ship broke up.
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This is a "witch."
I think you mean "which."
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which
[hwich, wich] Show IPA
pronoun 1. what one?: Which of these do you want? Which do you want?
2.whichever: Choose which appeals to you.
3.(used relatively in restrictive and nonrestrictive clauses to represent a specified antecedent): The book, which I read last night, was exciting. The socialism which Owen preached was unpalatable to many. The lawyer represented five families, of which the Costello family was the largest.
4.(used relatively in restrictive clauses having that as the antecedent): Damaged goods constituted part of that which was sold at the auction.
5.(used after a preposition to represent a specified antecedent):the horse on which I rode.
6.(used relatively to represent a specified or implied antecedent)the one that; a particular one that: You may choose which you like.
7.(used in parenthetic clauses) the thing or fact that: He hung around for hours and, which was worse, kept me from doing my work.
8.Nonstandard. who or whom: a friend which helped me move; the lawyer which you hired.
adjective
9.what one of (a certain number or group mentioned or implied)?:Which book do you want?
10.whichever; any that: Go which way you please, you'll end up here.
11.being previously mentioned: It stormed all day, during which time the ship broke up.
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This is a "witch."
You need a hobby man. LOL!
kool thx.. I have 1k to spend, I'm trying to figure the best sound plus Steadicam stabilizer to get for my dvx100a. I'm trying to shoot a short film in side a small office and I'm thinking about buying the Merlin more sugestions will be greatly appreciated. thank you
Excellent inexpensive shotgun = at875. It is a shorty though, so that may not work if you want maximum isolation. You might also look at the at897, like the ntg2, it has battery phantom if you need that. The two AT mics and the two Rodes are probably the best of the bargain mics
Grant
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GaryNattrass
Veteran
AT875, I had a rode NTG1 and it was far inferior for sound quality.
Add a rode PG2 and a WS6 and you got a great all round mic combo.
Add a rode PG2 and a WS6 and you got a great all round mic combo.
what is good for inside then? i was set on the ntg2
paulears
Veteran
Microphones are very personal, and everyone is biased by what they have and use regularly. Unlike things like cameras, the specs totally and utterly fail to give you anything other than a clue - because even cheap condenser mics appear to have almost identical specs to models costing maybe 100X more money! They, however, sound and perform differently. Add to this that we all like sound to be adjusted to our personal tastes, and the only thing you need to think about is the right type to do the job - and then look at the smaller range that tick the special boxes - like:
battery power option?
Phantom power?
Size
Weight
cost
durability
acceptance - this is the rotten bit. Some people have blinkers, and you MUST choose from X brand, and possibly even one single model. For each of these, there will be somebody else with a totally different view. It is perfectly fine for two people to have opposite views on a single product. If it works for you, it's ok!
battery power option?
Phantom power?
Size
Weight
cost
durability
acceptance - this is the rotten bit. Some people have blinkers, and you MUST choose from X brand, and possibly even one single model. For each of these, there will be somebody else with a totally different view. It is perfectly fine for two people to have opposite views on a single product. If it works for you, it's ok!
scorsesefan
Veteran
+1
Noiz2
Sound Ninja
you are in Bakersfield, you should be able to get someone local who actually has the equipment you need and knows how to use it.
The ugly truth is that decent sound equipment is expensive and it takes some experience to get decent results from even the best. You can skimp and cheat and get by but in the end when you look back and add it all up it would probably have been much more cost effective to have just hired someone who had what you needed.
The average sound cart for a low budget film has between $20,000 and $60,000 worth of "stuff". You doing a short and so you're going to be on the low end but even a bare bones setup probably has $5,000 in to it (more if you count the time that has been put in making the things that were not "paid for".
There are certainly folks who have strapped a Rode Video mic on their DSLR and shot a short. But this almost always results in really awful sound. It's one reason so many low budget films are just slathered with music. It's there to try and mask the really awful production sound.
So IF you are shooting a shake down with the camera, or just a short to see if you can get through it, I probably wouldn't spend a lot on sound because the film isn't going anyplace and who cares (this from a sound guy!). I would argue though that very few films fall into that category, and they are usually by experienced filmmakers trying something out on a shoestring.
Most films are going to take a lot of work because you want something respectable in the end that others will see and think of as a "real" movie. If you are going to go to all that work then don't shoot your self in the foot with crappy sound. In other words get someone who knows what they are doing, or at least wants to do sound. They will have some equipment and some know how and if you then have to buy some bit of sound equipment you will at least be adding tom a "kit" not trying to create one.
And wile your at it get someone who is willing to do your post sound. And get them before you start shooting so they can grab recordings of any unique locations and props, etc.
The ugly truth is that decent sound equipment is expensive and it takes some experience to get decent results from even the best. You can skimp and cheat and get by but in the end when you look back and add it all up it would probably have been much more cost effective to have just hired someone who had what you needed.
The average sound cart for a low budget film has between $20,000 and $60,000 worth of "stuff". You doing a short and so you're going to be on the low end but even a bare bones setup probably has $5,000 in to it (more if you count the time that has been put in making the things that were not "paid for".
There are certainly folks who have strapped a Rode Video mic on their DSLR and shot a short. But this almost always results in really awful sound. It's one reason so many low budget films are just slathered with music. It's there to try and mask the really awful production sound.
So IF you are shooting a shake down with the camera, or just a short to see if you can get through it, I probably wouldn't spend a lot on sound because the film isn't going anyplace and who cares (this from a sound guy!). I would argue though that very few films fall into that category, and they are usually by experienced filmmakers trying something out on a shoestring.
Most films are going to take a lot of work because you want something respectable in the end that others will see and think of as a "real" movie. If you are going to go to all that work then don't shoot your self in the foot with crappy sound. In other words get someone who knows what they are doing, or at least wants to do sound. They will have some equipment and some know how and if you then have to buy some bit of sound equipment you will at least be adding tom a "kit" not trying to create one.
And wile your at it get someone who is willing to do your post sound. And get them before you start shooting so they can grab recordings of any unique locations and props, etc.
Rick R
Veteran
"what is good for inside then?"
- It doesn't mean a shotgun won't work .. depends on the room. Again, generally... a hyper-cardioid condenser is the preferred interior mic.
This has previously been discussed extensively, so search this forum for loads of info.
As Noiz2 stated, it's best to hire someone who has the experience to deal with these issues.
- It doesn't mean a shotgun won't work .. depends on the room. Again, generally... a hyper-cardioid condenser is the preferred interior mic.
This has previously been discussed extensively, so search this forum for loads of info.
As Noiz2 stated, it's best to hire someone who has the experience to deal with these issues.
paulears
Veteran
If you own one mic, you are usually happy (unless it really does sound bad). Once you buy a second, you will use one of them 90% of the time. If you have ten, then one will still be used 90% and the remainder share 10%, but with at least 6 never coming out of the case!
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I just remembered I bought an AT 2020 months ago, and I don't think it's even been out of the box yet? Probably good for voice overs, but I carry on with the old one - an OKtava 319 I've had since they first came out.
EDIT
I just remembered I bought an AT 2020 months ago, and I don't think it's even been out of the box yet? Probably good for voice overs, but I carry on with the old one - an OKtava 319 I've had since they first came out.
Noiz2
Sound Ninja
Following the Hijack...
A really nice mic for VO etc that is also pretty cheap is the Heil PR40. It's a large diaphragm dynamic similar to the RE20 but uses rare earth magnets so it's out put is closer to a condenser mic. It doesn't need phantom and is very hard to blow out, and it sounds great on most voices.
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A really nice mic for VO etc that is also pretty cheap is the Heil PR40. It's a large diaphragm dynamic similar to the RE20 but uses rare earth magnets so it's out put is closer to a condenser mic. It doesn't need phantom and is very hard to blow out, and it sounds great on most voices.
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paulears
Veteran
First impression was very clean, and very accurate. Nearest other mic I can say it sounds similar to is the AKG414 - Not quite as detailed or of course expensive - but I think I'd use it for acoustic guitars and probably flutes - they seem to be the types of instrument that would benefit from it's characteristics.