New footage from JVC - LS 300

Jim Martin

Jim Martin

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JVC just put up some commissioned footage on the LS -300.....the three are grouped by the lenses they used....and I believe they used "Cinema standard" for the gamma setting:
w/ Rokinon 24 & 35mm MFT lenses:

https://youtu.be/gdzbL18E1vw

w/ Canon 8-15mm EF lens using the Metabones EF adapter:

https://youtu.be/DXual3d_7GY

w/ Zeiss CP 50mm T1.5 lens using the Metabones PL adapter:

https://youtu.be/qV32GQwebb8

JVC told me they have two more to post soon...

Jim Martin
 
Thanks for posting. Not to be as blunt, but the footage looks like very nice video footage. Ultra sharp and nice color, but kind of 60i looking. Maybe it is the 4k resolution or something? If JVC can tame this they will have a winner but who knows if they can. This is official footage.
 
I'm not a fan of the highlights, looks a lot like gh1 in terms of the roll off. I'm curious to see if there's a preset to get better DR. It seems to be the biggest limitation. My guess is 9-10 stops at most from this video.
 
maranfilms said:
I'm not a fan of the highlights, looks a lot like gh1 in terms of the roll off. I'm curious to see if there's a preset to get better DR. It seems to be the biggest limitation. My guess is 9-10 stops at most from this video.
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Supposedly somewhere around 10 - 11 stops or so. The image seems "okay" and the camera seems capable keeping in mind the price point, but those highlights are a bit disconcerting (a la my AF100a). I was just hoping for a bit more out of it. We'll see what other offerings arrive from NAB 2015.
 
Reminds me of a Nikon look ... but in 4K. JVC doesn't want it sold as a "cinema camera" but I would like to see how it looks with a Film Convert or something similar.
 
The first video link with athletes seem to have a jerky motion, I could barely read the slate but it seems to be 60shutter in 24p mode, this could be the culprit, not sure though. The others are clearly marked 48shutter at 24p thus no jerkiness.

This camera may have a "similar personality" with our old HD100 and HD200 cameras, they were also beasts that need to be tamed out of the box, I remembered we had to use custom color profiles to get the best latitude and colors from them. The popular sauce was from a guy in Cal, Paolo Ciccone. Yeah, eventually those old JVCs became our workhorses and even now see work. But I guess like this one, it needs to be fine tuned to become a gem.
The numerous adjustable parameters in menu would eventually produce the right balance in capable hands.
 
DLD said:
JVC doesn't want it sold as a "cinema camera"
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So why have a gamma named cinema standard?

But like people are saying it should be called video standard. There is nothing cinematic about this camera. But it's only $4000 too. This is a camera for people who can only afford a DSLR but want something with NDs and real video features for a bit more money. It's not a camera to compete with the C300 or FS7 obviously. This camera is bottom of the ladder and the images look like that. It is what it is.
 
Ted Ramasola said:
This camera may have a "similar personality" with our old HD100 and HD200 cameras, they were also beasts that need to be tamed out of the box, I remembered we had to use custom color profiles to get the best latitude and colors from them. The popular sauce was from a guy in Cal, Paolo Ciccone. Yeah, eventually those old JVCs became our workhorses and even now see work. But I guess like this one, it needs to be fine tuned to become a gem.
The numerous adjustable parameters in menu would eventually produce the right balance in capable hands.
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Found this on the website... http://pro.jvc.com/pro/attributes/4k/manual/GY-LS300_settings.pdf
 
Ah, the old "hot models posing in a gym intercut with mosaic making artisans" VT - it's a classic combination, no? I especially like the jerky tracking shot at the top of the first VT and the interesting changing light source from bright to really dark. Now that's the way to show off a camera JVC! But seriously, surely you'd have to be absolutely desperate for 4K to choose this over a C100 mk2?
 
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A) These are the type of lenses that ought to have been in the first reels/clips.

B) In their ISO 800 shots, I want to see higher ISO and/or grading to see the noise in the shadows and/or highlight clipping.

C) The dynamic range still looks iffy but colors are pleasant and it's 4K.

D) It looks like "video" off the bat and I would like to see some sort of a film stock emulation on this camera footage.
 
The gamma setting for all of these footage is standard, Rec 709. The intent of the footage is to provide the purest form of image capture possible, in addition to allowing the DP to provide their interpretation of how to capture the scene as they see best within the abilities of both the camera and lens.
 
DLD said:
D) It looks like "video" off the bat and I would like to see some sort of a film stock emulation on this camera footage.
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To be fair, unless Alexa or F35 every camera looks like video without some sort of film stock emulation.
 
Craig Yanagi said:
The gamma setting for all of these footage is standard, Rec 709. The intent of the footage is to provide the purest form of image capture possible, in addition to allowing the DP to provide their interpretation of how to capture the scene as they see best within the abilities of both the camera and lens.
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I would say the purest form of image capture is RAW.
 
The funniest part was the girl sitting and then a staight cut to the old fellow laughing. Dirty old man!

It looks like the footage have some sort of edge sharpening turned on and it looks very much like good UHD video overall.
 
with the successor of the AF100 just to be shown in the next couple of days with 16 stops of dynamic range I don't see why or how this cam will be able to compete. Isn't said that the next AF100 is in the 4000-5000 USD ball park figure?
 
demoboy said:
with the successor of the AF100 just to be shown in the next couple of days with 16 stops of dynamic range I don't see why or how this cam will be able to compete. Isn't said that the next AF100 is in the 4000-5000 USD ball park figure?
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One of two things will happen -- either Panasonic will introduce this miracle 16-stop successor to the AF100, or the rumor sites will be revealed as a hotbed of nonsense, misinformation, speculation, and horsecrap.

We'll know which one it is, for sure, in about 36 hours.
 
FWIW, Canon T6i, $749 MSRP when it becomes available shortly, has an HDR feature that one might see on the lower end models (not saying that AF100 successor is a low end model) where it doubles the frame rate - at a lower resolution, I assume - with adjustable ISO's. T6i can do 1080p at 30fps max and 720p at 60fps max. 720p will then be capable of this "in camera trickery".

A camera with a lot beefier processor that can do up to 60fps without dropping down in resolution should then be capable of this type of an HDR tech at 24/25/30 fps by shooting at 48/50/60 correspondingly. And then 16 stops becomes as simple as +1/-2 off a 13 stop sensor. Of course, it might have other artifacts in the image but the DR itself will be improved.
 
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