New Cinema EOS camera announcement

Zephyrnoid said:
well. I just got back from looking at the much Ballyhooed April Vogue cover that i cited before. Not impressed. I need for jared to call out the specs for the video stream grab because it would not work for me. Just leaving through the rest of the Issue you can easily tell the images that were taken with the digital Hasselblad (amazing detail) versus the Epic grabs. I'm not dissapointed as my point and shot can do better than that and all i care about is the video. but now i'm clear. you can't expect a grab from the stream to match a dedicated still capture.
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The stills are the same as the motion resolution, the maximum resolution of the camera is about 14Mp. There is no difference between a single still frame shot with an Epic and a motion frame. No its not a 38Mp Hasselblad, but it produces image quality far beyond any point and shoot and more than adequate for any magazine publication. It is the first and only motion camera Getty Images has ever accepted for stills submissions and that includes S35mm film cameras.
 
on a related note, I asked a hasselblad rep at a showing of their digital medium format cameras if they've thought about adding video. They said they are well aware of all the video mode buzz that's been going around lately and as such do talk about things like that
 
there's a reason those medium format cameras have such slow burst rate: the bigger the sensor, and the more mpix it has, the harder it is to make it work fast - together with downsampling, this would be a problem for shooting video with those cameras
 
Dave © said:
The entire consumer business unit generated under 40% of Canon's revenue in 2010 (source: canon's 2010 annual report). That business unit includes inkjet printers, compact digital cameras, scanners, broadcast equipment, printer perpherals (ink/toner, paper, etc), camcorders, DSLRs and lenses. Canon is a $50B (annual revenue) company.

Nikon is a $11B company. According to its 2011 annual report, it's imaging business unit drove more than $7B of that revenue.

So Nikon is a lens company and Canon is not.
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I am talking about Canon imaging photo/video division, it is even hard to say these in the same phrase because all these division work so independently (look how they emphasize the sharing of the photo (eos) and video know-how/people for the launch of the C300, because they are like coming from two different company) . Many people think that because these companies have the same name they work as a homogenous entity. That is why for example, every-time you see people (fanboys) complaining that Nikon gets Sony sensor even before Sony camera itself. The latest case being the D800. Sony sensor division does not give a damn about Sony alpha cameras until they sell 3 to 5x more cameras to be at Nikon level. All these division have to face very big competitors, in the case of printers photocopy you have hp and xerox for example.

I use to hear Canon people saying that Canon was such a bigger company that it would trash Nikon because it could invest so much more in the R&D etc. But the thing is that, you think that all the subsidiaries of Canon like the inject printer, photocopier etc would just stop developing their product, just for Mr Joe Canon shooter to have all the R&D money for their dslr!!!!!!!!!! What is reality is that the suppose Nikon midget, has made up its ground since the 2007 lauch of the D3/d300. Having the crown of best ISO camera and then D3X as best resolution camera. Now the D800 and perhaps D4 (will have to see the vapour ware 1dX) are cementing the midget advantage. So yes, Canon imaging division is a lens company, because its management care only about the bottom line of its division at the end of the fiscal year.
 
Just got this word from a source on ye ol' twitter:

"C300 users shouldn't be upset about Canon's new uktra high end cam unless they had an extra additional $20K laying around. Its $35-40k"

then, after I inquired:

"NAB just around the corner. I can't say anything except that you will see a really high end Canon Cinema EOS around 35-49k."

a couple posts later:

"Will be 4K resolution. Too many people trying to get me assassinated by Canon Ninjas tonight. Cab't say much more."
 
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Canon made a big splash with the EOS Cinema announcement at Paramount - I don't think they were just putting their toes in the water!
 
cowpunk52 said:
Not terribly absurd - Look at the Epic, even the Alexa, and especially the F65. If it comes close to their performance, I can understand the price.
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No, I hear you...but I think when people were thinking of the Cinema DSLR, they weren't envisioning 40 thousand dollars...kind of defeats the whole purpose of putting it in a DSLR body, it's just very odd to me for that price. Who knows what it will actually be though and what features it will have
 
themagickite said:
on a related note, I asked a hasselblad rep at a showing of their digital medium format cameras if they've thought about adding video. They said they are well aware of all the video mode buzz that's been going around lately and as such do talk about things like that
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This gets me f-ing psyched.
 
pulpfiction007 said:
No, I hear you...but I think when people were thinking of the Cinema DSLR, they weren't envisioning 40 thousand dollars...kind of defeats the whole purpose of putting it in a DSLR body, it's just very odd to me for that price. Who knows what it will actually be though and what features it will have
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I don't think that $40K model will be in a DSLR body. lol
 
$40k for a "4k" DSLR makes no sense at all, even in the rarefied atmosphere of cinema. If Canon do have a $40k camera in the wings it won't be a DSLR but something like an Alexa or F65, probably getting 4k from an 8k sensor and outputting something a lot higher than MJPEG, raw perhaps.

I really would not expect a cine DSLR based on the 1DX to come in at much more than 1DX cost.
 
This must be a different camera than the CDSLR they mentioned during the C300 release because I read a few interviews where Canon acknowledged that the C300 wasn't the camera for 5D users who wanted to move up and that the CDSLR was going to be more of that camera, unless, I misunderstood what they were meaning. Must be a different camera altogether. C4000? :)
 
roxics said:
I don't think that $40K model will be in a DSLR body. lol
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cowpunk52 said:
Just got this word from a source on ye ol' twitter:

"C300 users shouldn't be upset about Canon's new uktra high end cam unless they had an extra additional $20K laying around. Its $35-40k"

then, after I inquired:

"NAB just around the corner. I can't say anything except that you will see a really high end Canon Cinema EOS around 35-49k."

a couple posts later:

"Will be 4K resolution. Too many people trying to get me assassinated by Canon Ninjas tonight. Cab't say much more."
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Canon rumors echoes this thought as well....the Cinema DSLR may not be annonced until later. They too believe Canon will be releasing a higher end camera. I got confused when I thought Canons next release would be the C DSLR.
 
I'm curious as to what the C100 could omit from the C300. I'm assuming a different codec. I can't imagine them taking away the ND filters if the body is $8000 as rumored. Anyone else have any guesses?
 
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