New Canon EOS 1D X Mark ll

Nice to see another camera use the DCI standard of 4096x2160 besides the GH4. Reminds me a lot of the direction the Nikon D500 and D5 are going which is very interesting. 20MP sensor, cropping the sensor for a 1:1 4k shooting and so forth.

I am a huge Panasonic fan but this new Canon camera is more exciting to me than the new Nikon models since many cinema cameras can directly use Canon EF lenses. Plus I used to be a Canon man when I owned a Canon XL1.

Internal 4:2:2 is very welcome but I still don't understand why the lack of 10 bit even for external recording. To a colorist 10bit would likely be of much greater value than 4:2:2. Especially if one uses a 4k to 2k post workflow. I still argue if 4k on a bayer sensor like this really benefits all that much from a 4:2:2 anyway. The DSP already handles a color depth much higher than 10bit so a 10bit recording would have more impact on the quality and the ability to work in post.

The GH4 may still be the only DSLR with true 10bit output which can help a lot with LOG shooting.


Ok just saw the price. Yikes! Why on earth wouldn't one just get a proper cinema camera if they plan on spending that much money? Maybe the Nikons are not looking so bad after all.
 
I'm just surprised that Canon jumped directly to 4k60. They just seem to slow with everything else.

With the price tag, this really seems for people who have so much cash they don't care, or mostly for photographers, who want video too. And a 8MP still from 4K is going to be a usable image for a lot of things, so I could see still shooters using the 4K video as just a way to shoot 30-60 still frames a second to make sure they get the exact shot they want.
 
Thomas Smet said:
Nice to see another camera use the DCI standard of 4096x2160 besides the GH4. Reminds me a lot of the direction the Nikon D500 and D5 are going which is very interesting. 20MP sensor, cropping the sensor for a 1:1 4k shooting and so forth.
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Canon was first out with 4k internal recording (announced 2012, released 2013). It was DCI 1:1 pixel crop, 422, 520Mbps, intra frame from the get go.

I think they were alone with this feature for at least a year (probably more?)
 
Thomas Smet said:
Nice to see another camera use the DCI standard of 4096x2160 besides the GH4. Reminds me a lot of the direction the Nikon D500 and D5 are going which is very interesting. 20MP sensor, cropping the sensor for a 1:1 4k shooting and so forth.

I am a huge Panasonic fan but this new Canon camera is more exciting to me than the new Nikon models since many cinema cameras can directly use Canon EF lenses. Plus I used to be a Canon man when I owned a Canon XL1.

Internal 4:2:2 is very welcome but I still don't understand why the lack of 10 bit even for external recording. To a colorist 10bit would likely be of much greater value than 4:2:2. Especially if one uses a 4k to 2k post workflow. I still argue if 4k on a bayer sensor like this really benefits all that much from a 4:2:2 anyway. The DSP already handles a color depth much higher than 10bit so a 10bit recording would have more impact on the quality and the ability to work in post.

The GH4 may still be the only DSLR with true 10bit output which can help a lot with LOG shooting.


Ok just saw the price. Yikes! Why on earth wouldn't one just get a proper cinema camera if they plan on spending that much money? Maybe the Nikons are not looking so bad after all.
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This camera is made for stills photography. More over, it's made for capturing the moment in stills photography. 14 frames a second at 20mp's RAW. It just so happens to have 4k video in it. This camera is designed and being released mainly for the Olympics. It's not a cinema camera. It's a still image sponge to capture every moment at the Olympics 14 20mp frames or 60 8mp frames per second at a time. That is why it costs what it does.
 
Still no global shutter, even in the most expensive still camera. I can't believe we've had a decade of rolling shutter in almost all cameras.
 
Was told in the morning that I will get one for testing. Lets see how soon. Any way, I will be buying one when it is officially available. In some of the projects I definitely need stills and also it will work nice as a B camera to the C300 Mark II.
 
combatentropy said:
Still no global shutter, even in the most expensive still camera. I can't believe we've had a decade of rolling shutter in almost all cameras.
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Agreed! (Not implying anything on this 1Dx, just in general, very sad to see global shutter such a low priority amongst shooters, but also a testament as to how far digital still has to go.)
 
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I know that 1DC was originally $12K then $8K.

But wouldn't the brand new 1DX MkII (priced at $6K) have to affect the current price of the 1DC (originally $12K and now $8k)? Just dreaming that the 1DC could drop to $4K. Maybe that's insane to wish for, but when Canon introduced the C300 Mk2, many were still shocked and astonished that the C300 plummeted to $6K, a price drop of more than 60%.
 
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I've been thinking about a 1DC price drop too, but it most likely won't happen as the 1DX II and 1DC are probably viewed as different market cameras.
 
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