New 13" MacBook

If time is of the essence, the P2 Store can verify and format your cards, so you can transfer the data and clean the cards at a faster rate. You can dump to the P2 Store and format the card before the card recording in the camera is full so you can swap and shoot pretty much continuosly. I don't think you can do it that fast on a mac and only the PC software allows you to format the card in the computer.
 
I hear you. The process of verification and formatting has never afflicted me necessarily as far as a consumption-of-time factor. Not to the tune of a 2K alternative, anyway. I guess the P2 stores are more "efficient" for that process, although I have found that formatting a P2 card on the camera itself takes an average of 5-10 seconds, so I wouldn't bother attempting to confuse myself by doing that on a PC anyway...
 
The Macbook is a great little laptop. I'm trying to get my girlfriend to upgrade her sorely dated, heavy, virus ridden, constantly failing, cracked screen POS toshiba notebook with one.

That said. This is NOT a professional machine. It is an entry level basic bareall laptop.

It is meant for people who use computers for email, websurfing, DVDs, photosharing, music...

Its very basic and designed that way for a reason.

Will run FCP...might...but WHY. The graphics card is not nearly good enough. The 5400rpm drive isnt a real issue. I run FCP studio just fine on my powerbook with a 80gb 5400rpm drive. But if I were buying a new Macbook Pro I WOULD opt for the 100gb 7200rpm drive.

Bottom line: A GREAT entry level mac for a computer geeks around the world.

NOT a great professional machine for people on this board...quit being cheap and get the right tool for the job, if a mac is what you are looking at.
 
NOT a great professional machine for people on this board...quit being cheap and get the right tool for the job said:
But great for prosumers! Edit video on the go much faster than you could 3 months ago on a mac laptop. I could see companies who do corporate videos,infomercials,etc. that don't need many flashy graphics to buy many of these little laptops.
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The MacBook is hardly an entry-level laptop, and Apple doesn't present it as such. Look at the specs:

1.83-2.0 Core Duo (ie, dual core) chip with a 667 MHz bus
512 megs RAM
5400 RPM hard drive, which can easily be upgraded to any laptop drive available (160 gigs, 7200 rpm models, etc.)
1280x800 resolution (that's roughly the res of PowerBooks from a year ago)
DVD Burner in top model
Built in 802.11G and Bluetooth
Built in video camera and mic
Audio in and out
Mini DVI connector so it can drive a 23" display as a second monitor (1920x1200 res)
All for as low as $1099, and in a 5.2 pound package that's about an inch thick

This machine can easily handle "pro" level work. Other than the video card (which has no impact on video editing, sound production, DVD authoring, Photoshop work, web design, etc.), this machine has near MacBook Pro specs, for almost $1000 less.
 
from the numbers the performance difference between a macbook and macbook pro is almost negligible with video editing. and it will be MUCH faster than anything with a G4. It will only "look" less professional, as it doesn't have the nice aluminum body and nicer looking keys. though the 13" screen might be a little small for workspace, if you want to use the DVI out for the preview monitor.
 
It's quite ridiculous to think that merely because it doesn't have "Pro" in the name it can't do tht kind of work. I've been editing on an imac for the past two years and from what I understand this Macbook is twice as fast as my imac G5. The G5 had NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER handling whatever I threw at it. Proffessional is determined by who is using the machine, not by the machne itself.
 
What are the differences between the two, Macbook and macbook pro.
As far as l can see its the video card and the express card port.
Whereas the macbook shares, what would have been its video card with the main board.

This has turned out to be a very interesting thread.

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As to compatibility with 5.1, FCS requires a ". . . AGP Quartz Extreme or PCI Express graphics card."

The MB has neither.
 
THE HONEST LIAR said:
What are the differences between the two, Macbook and macbook pro.
As far as l can see its the video card and the express card port.
Whereas the macbook shares, what would have been its video card with the main board.

This has turned out to be a very interesting thread.

Kind regards
THE HONEST LIAR
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Most important is the graphics card.

Next is FW800 (if we are talking about the 17" model) and I'm willing to be the next update of the 15" will see a return of FW800 as well.

There is also the lack of an optional 7200rpm internal drive.

smaller screen.

Like I said. It may very well be able to run FCP...but it wasn't designed to hold that type of a workload.

Whoever said the graphics card has no effect on programs like FCP, Photoshop, etc...are you kidding yourself? I may not be a computer expert but those types of programs are fairly dependent on a good graphics card with enough on board RAM.

Your druthers if you want to buy it for a professional applications, but the is a reason why the other line was created.
 
Well first off the bat a 7200 rpm Hard disk can be added.
Then in regards to the Fw 800 the 400 is enough, right.
It will just take a little longer to do certain things.
You'll have to do one thing at a time.

The only problem i see is the sharing of RAM.

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FCP's realtime effects are entirely reliant on the graphics card. When "RT Extreme" came out (I think it was FCP 4.5), the big deal was that it used the GPU to render effects. When you first run FCP, and it notifies you that it is profiling the hardware for RT ability, it's checking the GPU to see what kind of effects it can handle (as well as the CPU speed).
 
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Well first off the bat a 7200 rpm Hard disk can be added.
Then in regards to the Fw 800 the 400 is enough, right.
It will just take a little longer to do certain things.
You'll have to do one thing at a time.

The only problem i see is the sharing of RAM.

Kind regards
THE HONEST LIAR
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How can a 7200rpm drive be added. Not through apple. I built one yesterday and did not see the option. Actually for once it doesnt list the RPM...which leads me to guess they are all 5400 for the macbooks.

If you're talking about cracking it open and replacing yourself forget it. That is not a warranty I'd be willing to void. You do that and Apple won't even sneeze on your machine.
 
I suggest you read this thread from the start.
A macbook has been purchased and had a 160GB (ok 100) Hard disk added no problem.

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How can a 7200rpm drive be added. Not through apple. I built one yesterday and did not see the option. Actually for once it doesnt list the RPM...which leads me to guess they are all 5400 for the macbooks.

If you're talking about cracking it open and replacing yourself forget it. That is not a warranty I'd be willing to void. You do that and Apple won't even sneeze on your machine.
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I've read reports that the hard drive on the MacBook is easily accessed, much easier than previous PBs.

As to warranty, I don't ever remember that replacing a hard drive in recent Apple laptops every voided the warranty.
 
But doccutter I agree the Video card is what it boils down to.

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I have some interesting news for you guys. In light of the fact that I have another ten days to wait until my Macbook arrives I've been reading everything I could find on it. There's a guy over on the Macrumors.com forums and he said the harddrive is right under the battery and easily replaceable. He's already swapped his out for a 7200rpm 100gig one. Just thought y'all would like to know!
 
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I've read reports that the hard drive on the MacBook is easily accessed, much easier than previous PBs.

As to warranty, I don't ever remember that replacing a hard drive in recent Apple laptops every voided the warranty.
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Sure it does. You opened up the machine are you aren't apple qualified tech its voided. Its just my aftermarket RAM...If I ever have to get warranty work done I have to remember to pop that RAM out first.

Granted it will only void it if they happen to see you arent using a factory installed HD.

They are a pain in that regard. I had a failing HD in my powerbook last year. And when it was sent in there was a shortage of the 80gb drive that I had...After talking to several people there they wouldnt even let me pay the difference and have THEM upgrade to easily found 100gb drive like the new powerbooks had at the time. They made a million excuses as to why they couldn't..all of them bunk.
 
The Sarlacc said:
Sure it does. You opened up the machine are you aren't apple qualified tech its voided. Its just my aftermarket RAM...If I ever have to get warranty work done I have to remember to pop that RAM out first.

Granted it will only void it if they happen to see you arent using a factory installed HD.

They are a pain in that regard. I had a failing HD in my powerbook last year. And when it was sent in there was a shortage of the 80gb drive that I had...After talking to several people there they wouldnt even let me pay the difference and have THEM upgrade to easily found 100gb drive like the new powerbooks had at the time. They made a million excuses as to why they couldn't..all of them bunk.
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It depends if the hard drive is a user serviceable part, and my guess is given the easy access in the MacBook, it is.

Also from an Apple Service memo:

"All unauthorized modifications will void the Apple Limited Warranty unless it is clear there is no relation between the modification and the product failure. Any modification that permanently alters the basic module and makes it unfit for the module "exchange pool" will void the Apple warranty. For example, attempts to rework the power supply at the component level will void the warranty on an Apple product."
 
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