While the subject is dramatic, I think the exposure and grading could have been much better. I see some burnt highlights and an overall "too contrasty" look in several places.
( but hey it's a new camera with a new LOG, so it's going to take some practice to get to know what it can do )
That's what I'm saying. The Mendoza Line - how's that for a sports reference? - is moving lower and lower and pretty soon it would have to slide into a DSLR market.
Unless the Netflix testers say, "Oh, crap, why do you keep bothering us with this shtuff? We have fifty other cameras approved. Why don't you just pick something off that list already?"
Still, 6K on S1H, if implemented well, would be tempting.
My theory is that the best looking shots are on the camera, the worst are on the shooter. In other words, there are probably more screw-ups in grading than in shooting the lower dynamic range baked in with 709. But, at least, they didn't go for the orange&teal look everywhere. Plus, some frames do look fantastic.
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Who are all these people being hired by Netflix to shoot, yet are worried about the camera?
NorBro
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Everyone who wants to "make it" via filmmaking has Netflix on their mind (along with other distribution platforms), and wants to make sure they are at least using an approved camera because 99% of this group will not have that amazing piece of work that will be purchased no matter which camera was used.
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even less a reason to worry about it.
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In addition to well-funded narrative series and features, Netflix also produces non scripted work and documentaries. By their nature these productions are smaller and benefit from small, unobtrusive cameras. The approved list can be important for them as well.
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And thanks for answering the question Norbro.
I come across a lot of people that mention the Netflix 4K cameras, and yet no one ever has a good reason why they are worrying about it. So, thanks for falling on the grenade so to speak. I am up-voting your replies.
I come across a lot of people that mention the Netflix 4K cameras, and yet no one ever has a good reason why they are worrying about it. So, thanks for falling on the grenade so to speak. I am up-voting your replies.
NorBro
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Thank you. That's just one opinion...I'm sure there are others too.
At the end of the day, the world is going to continue to change in many ways whether we like it or not.
People who truly love making films will not stop making them no matter what (if they physically can).
At the end of the day, the world is going to continue to change in many ways whether we like it or not.
People who truly love making films will not stop making them no matter what (if they physically can).
Netflix is like Mikey from those 1970's cereal commercials - if they like it, everyone better like it. It's a Housekeeping Seal of Approval. It's a degree from Harvard or Yale. It's an All-American. An Oscar winner. Motor Trend Car of the Year. A Michelin Five Star restaurant. Pro Bowl. Hall of Fame. The Best in Show. 90210.
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There is a weird religious vibe to the whole idea of film making and art. Some odd phrases that get thrown around that don’t really mean much.
I get it, but i also have a hard time watching people suffer from their “love of film making, and have to do it” complex.
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absolutely.
They have a budget provided by Netflix. So, they can choose a camera from the list without much worry.
People being paid by Netflix don't fret about the camera, because they are getting paid work, and the opportunity to work with a big studio.
The only people talking about the Netflix cameras, are the people that shouldn't be worried about it. No budget Indies, the guy that has a friend that shot for Netflix that would have preferred to use Alexa. The Random documentary, the short film, the B grade feature, and all these projects that really have little or nothing to do with Netflix and their list, other than some distant loose hail mary of a hope.
I thought the teams that shot all of the orginals on the Varicams did a brilliant job of playing to that camera's strengths. They aren't out there worrying about it, they are doing good work that is getting a great response.
The Netflix camera list was never that important, and is even less relevant now. I can understand early on if some people felt they would have preferred using a camera they are familiar with, but at the end of the day, they are getting paid work and an audience.
I actually don't know anyone personally who is working on a Netflix production, but I still hear people talking about the Netflix list either during preparation for their project, or in some derogatory fashion, hating on Netflix for making the list only include 4K cameras.
...yet, that list wasn't made for those people, and they can keep making things the way they want if they just stop misinterpreting the list. The reach of that list has gone far beyond its design and purpose.
NorBro
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Mitch also said this the other day which makes a lot of sense.
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Netflix is a business and has certain standards. And a lot of similar companies probably agree and/or will eventually have their own approved lists.
A love for filmmaking is one thing - and that can be personal - but you also can't have people running around shooting with any camera they want if they expect any major distribution.
Can you imagine the new Top Gun or whatever shot on a camera from the 90s? Just wouldn't happen.
There needs to be a visual bar set for the advancement of humanity...now and moving forward.
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Netflix is a business and has certain standards. And a lot of similar companies probably agree and/or will eventually have their own approved lists.
A love for filmmaking is one thing - and that can be personal - but you also can't have people running around shooting with any camera they want if they expect any major distribution.
Can you imagine the new Top Gun or whatever shot on a camera from the 90s? Just wouldn't happen.
There needs to be a visual bar set for the advancement of humanity...now and moving forward.
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...and sorry, i meant to hit the multi quote button on my phone and fat fingered a down vote.
I’ll upvote your next few replies. Up votes are free. Just time.
I’ll upvote your next few replies. Up votes are free. Just time.
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you should make a Norbro studios. Don’t just wish it. You can do it.
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