Need URGENT RED Epic / Pro Res encoding advice

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Nick Navaro

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Hi all

My DP just shot a film in Paris and delivered the footage in Pro Res 422 format.

When editing in Final Cut 7, the footage which was mostly shot at 48 fps, is showing up at 24 fps in the "item properties / format" tab.

How can I get the footage to play normal speed at 24 fps???

When putting a clip in Cinema Tools in already says it's 24 fps, and no option to convert to anything higher than 30 fps, AND it would then need rendering which I simply don't have the time for.

Here are some examples files > http://www.sendspace.com/filegroup/xV69PhQEZWIdGGQEqZPL0A

Need some urgent assistance with this as the edit is due.

Thanks!

Nick
 
Nick this was shot at 48FPS in a 24FPS project file. Your only option is to speed the clip up by 200 percent in your NLE.
 
Oh no, is that the only way? That's what I was afraid of. In FCP 7, it would need rendering on every sped up clip. I tested it and it doesn't quite seem like real time, it seems too fast, is that just because I've been watching slo mo all day? I do have Adobe Premier too, but not familiar with it. Maybe I should edit in that? My decisions, but would appreciate your expert opinion.

EDIT: PS Why does it show up as 24 fps in FCP7? Is that due to the Pro Res render?
 
Also, there is lack of motion blur which is probably throwing you off. The shutter was most likely 180 degrees when shooting, so when sped up 200 percent, you will essentially have the look of high shutter speed.
 
Ok, thank you. Yes, Adobe is better as no render required when editing. Final question then... That "look of high shutter speed" mixed with the slo mo, will that effect the final outcome of the video? I mean would it look too weird? Maybe I should do the whole thing in slo mo?

Thanks for your assistance.
 
It will certainly have a different look. Especially in high motion scenes. If there's not much motion like some talking heads, it may not be as noticeable. Just render out some scenes and see if its ok for you. Was this shot accidentally at high framerate?
 
Yes, it seems that it will have a different look. Just consulting the director now on how to proceed with the edit. No, it was a conscious decision by director and DP, it just seems like they didn't put enough thought into what shots would be what frame rate. It's better to plan this out at the start right? Rather than shoot everything 48 fps or higher? Maybe it's workflow ignorance on the director's part?
 
Framerate is super important to discuss before hand as it never looks right changing back to normal speeds in post. When in doubt, shoot the scene twice at different speeds.
 
Thanks bgundu. I agree entirely. Poor preparation. I knew it intuitively, just needed reinforcement. You have been invaluable on this stressful evening. Wish I could give you a cut of the DP/Director's pay.
 
Ha. Sure. I've decided to edit in premier CS6. The only issue currently is exporting the final movie. I'm doing a test and trying to export a Pro Res 422 Quicktime. All looks good apart from the "BITRATE SETTINGS": Limit data rate to 6000 kbps is checked and grey-out. I need this to be 50,000 kbps. How can I change that, any ideas?
 
Actually, will export as "match sequence settings" so it comes out exactly the same as the original and re-render the file in compressor if needed.
 
Not sure. I gave up on Premiere when I moved over to shooting with RED footage. FCPX has the speed and ability to edit in 4K no sweat... and on a laptop!
 
Hmmmm... Good to know. FCPX has moved on from the initial bad press it got?? Do you own your Red? Is it worth investing in do you think? We just did the Red Epic shoot in Paris, and the camera with matte box, follow focus, batteries and lenses is quite heavy. Not really a one man job, need a camera assistant. I'm used to working alone.
 
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