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emretufekci
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Thank you again everybody for the input.
We are not considering selling any of the 2/3 cameras (we just added a HPX 2700). They have their place and use. I know this is off topic but we have NEVER used the RED because when we need a similar spec camera we usually rent a Panavision Genesis. We are going to start experimenting with the RED in a few months.
Back on topic:
We are going to add more Zeiss ZF lenses as Morgan stated they would fit a Canon (if we go that way). We are also looking to add a very high end zoom lens.
The information everybody has provided is very valuable, thank you for taking the time to share it with us.
emretufekci
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morgan_moore
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I take it you understand that no DSLR zooms are any good for zooming 'in shot'
I have 24-105 canon (which is a bit fisheye at the long end on the 5d)
70-200 canon 4 and nikon 2.8
those 70-200 are excellent not for zooming in shot but keeping load down and making the shooting process faster changing primes all the time
I use those zooms for 90% of my work (and the 16-50 tokina on the 7d)
just to save time
IMO F4 is plenty on a FF chip but you need at least 2.8 on the 7d to isolate your subject properly
ps If Dan says the 11-16 is good for 13-16 on 1.3 crop he will be correct - he has more glass than most people have in their green house
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emretufekci
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Correct, we are only looking at zooms as a framing convenience if we are run-n-gun.
saneproductions
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I am sure it is great in the aps-h sensor from 13.5-16 (and I know it is amazing on aps-c as I am strongly considering it for my personal kit). Just want to make sure we list the gotchas too as it is difficult to tell at a glance it is a short back focus lens the way it is described around the web (info is there, just not as clear as when you call the lens ef-s). I personally worry about spending big bucks on EFS lenses since I also shoot full frame and the OP specifically mentioned full frame (even though he never clarifies if he meant full frame still photgraphy or motion picture full frame (similar to aps-c)).
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emretufekci
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And I definitely appreciate that. Because at the end I am just going to throw this list to my purchasing guy and say go buy these.
saneproductions
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YA I figured. We do the same kind of work as you and sometimes we don't have a chance to play with new equipment for weeks or months after purchase, so you may not know until too late. Definatly different world than being an owner operator (did that before I took the full time producing job) 
actually you were right about the canon- the tokina 11-16 and sigma 10-20 are made for aps-c but are both regular ef mount so can be used on FF or APS-H cameras (with vignetting at the very wide ends).and are good to go. the canon 10-22 on the other hand is a short back focus, but supposedly you can take off the back plastic ring to make it fit. it probably wouldn't be worth the risk since you run the risk of hitting the camera mirror if you go too wide. I had actually used it and thought it was decent, but yeah that was on an APS-C and APS-H won't accept EF-S mounts.
the only two current FF (still photography wise) video DSLRs are the D3s and the 5d but I think the 1d4 is close enough that it should count. It has so many other features though that it should probably be his first choice over the others. if he didn't need slow motion it would be close between the D3s and the 1d4 but for army videos it seems like you'd want it for action etc.
I've done this and on a 1D II you need to zoom to 12mm+. If you must go ultrawide on a 1D IV your only choice is the Sigma 12-24, which is designed for full frame. It cannot take a filter without vignetting until somewhere around 16mm.
morgan_moore
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Of course there is the nikkor 14-24 lense to which is the real badboy of ultrawide zooms
with a 16-9 net adabpter that will work/cover any DSLR
on the UWZoom thing Dan makes some points of value over the ability of the 11-16 having a flat front to accept screw on filters - the reason he is choosing it over the 14 prime for his 1ds4
I think the 14-24 nikkor does NOT have a flat front
dans blog..dsrl newsshooter
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with a 16-9 net adabpter that will work/cover any DSLR
on the UWZoom thing Dan makes some points of value over the ability of the 11-16 having a flat front to accept screw on filters - the reason he is choosing it over the 14 prime for his 1ds4
I think the 14-24 nikkor does NOT have a flat front
dans blog..dsrl newsshooter
S