Brian this lens is what it is. It's also really cheap. I've also shot with it a bunch on red and I never thought it looked "horrible". I'd actually love to have one for my AF100.
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Brian this lens is what it is. It's also really cheap. I've also shot with it a bunch on red and I never thought it looked "horrible". I'd actually love to have one for my AF100.
Matt Gottshalk
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If a lens manufacturer actually makes a decent zoom that covers the M43 sensor with a servo zoom on it, the only thing you will hear is the nashing of teeth when the price is revealed.
Brian@202020
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Jake it's a very soft lens. I just might sell you mine if you want it and the price is right. Call me if you're interested.
How much? I guess i disagree that it's "very soft". I'm not sticking up for it's build quality or saying its a great lens but I don't put up a stink if have to shoot with one. Wouldn't mind having the option to shoot with that instead of the nikons when I'm doing smaller shoots.
I attached a photo of a screen grab. GH13 and RED 18-50, no grade. I think it looks pretty sharp?
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alaskacameradude
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Well, Sony is doing it for the F3 which has a bigger sensor than the M43. Of course the price
hasn't been announced yet, so we'll have to listen close for those teeth......
Jon Furtado
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And everyone was complaining that the micro 4/3 chip wasn't "big" enough
I talked to a lot of people that complained that they're gonna wait till they release a "full frame" camera. Doesn't this just exacerbate this issue?Brian@202020
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Well I really noticed it on the Rockford Mules music video I shot last year when I tried to cut RED 18-50 zoom footage with Zeiss Super Speed Footage. The Sharpness of the Zeiss Super Speeds cut really well with my Nikons tho.
I'm sure you noticed a difference when comparing it to Zeiss Super Speeds! I'm just saying that the stuff I've shot with one I wouldn't call "really soft"
Barry_Green
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The 4/3 chip is almost the same size as 35mm movie film.And everyone was complaining that the micro 4/3 chip wasn't "big" enough
A "full frame" sensor would indeed exacerbate the issue, of course. It is approximately twice the size of the 4/3 chip.
benniles
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Do you have an example that you can show us or a link to the video?
Jarek Zabczynski
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I just got the Nikon 17-55mm and to my surprise the lens does push forward a little when zooming. Not as much as other zooms in this range, but it does move. It seems like a great lens though. Any other lenses with a similar range that don't extend?
Brian@202020
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The only example I have is the finished youtube video, which isn't a good example for several reasons. First, all the RED footage shot with the Zeiss Super Speeds and the GH1(3) 1080 24p footage shot with my Nikon glass was softened in post a little, where as the RED footage shot with the RED 18-50 and the GH1(3) footage shot in 720p was left alone. Then all the footage was muddied up quite a bit to achieve a look the director wanted. Also the youtube compression won't help my cause either. Believe me tho, sitting in the edit room looking at the footage side by side it was a night and day difference. Here is the link anyway if you want to see it. All the footage of inside the tent where the baby was being born was shot with the RED 18-50, as well as a few pick up shots.
Well, here's my link to a more recent video shot with the 18-50 and I think it looks pretty sharp. Definitely not shot on super speeds or any super spendy glass, but definitely not really soft. At least I think so anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQYwURAgfJA
Sorry if I got off topic, I just wanted to stick up for this lens a little. Not saying it's the greatest, but if it's what you got to use I believe it can make some nice pictures.
benniles
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Here is a video
http://vimeo.com/6046859
I shot it with the 18-50 red and a set of Zeiss standard speed 2.1 PL lenses 16 through 85.
For the fisheye shots I had a century adapter on the front of the 16
I felt they cut together well.
As far as getting what you pay for I purchased my 18-50 used and its the best lens I own that cost me less than $3000.00
Nice vid man. Great art direction.
Jan_Crittenden
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Look at what the guys from Abel have been up to:
http://vimeo.com/groups/72874/videos/19839954
http://vimeo.com/groups/72874/videos/19839954
Jarek Zabczynski
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Impressive.