NBC chooses P2

"ETB" the basque television just renewed all their equipment and went with P2 (HPX500, hvx200, P2 portable hdds............). P2 it's here to stay!
 
David S. said:
That's great for what others call a dying technology.

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Exactly my thought - next time someone wants to come on and proclaim "P2 is dead" they just might want to reconsider... there are now over 300 TV stations in the US, including all the owned & operated stations of two of the four major networks, using P2. I think we as users can be pretty well assured that it's gonna be around for quite a long time...
 
P2 cards

P2 cards

Glad somebody out there can afford P2 cards right now... I figure NBC can probably buy 10 or 12 of em...

:D

I shoot on HVX200A, so far I love the P2. Just wish I had a few more... Thanks for the post, Barry!

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I haven't heard of any. Heck, I haven't even heard of any individual stations going with SxS. I went on the Sony site to look at press releases, and they don't have any press releases announcing any stations or networks using SxS. The only press release I found that even mentioned SxS in the title for any organization was for the University of Tulsa's sports department.

Here's the site for Sony Broadcast's press releases, if you want to sift through 'em:
http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/mkt-broadcast/resource.pressreleases

That's just the USA though; don't know what might be going on outside the USA.
 
Not surprising. The tapeless solution Sony moved it's broadcasters toward was XDCamHD. And they still are. Panasonic had no optical equivalent, so P2 becomes the product of choice. And SxS for Sony becomes the "new thing". P2 has been out there in the market for eons in comparison to SxS.
 
Well, SxS is one media, but XDCam discs are vastly used here in Europe. Many studios over here stop using their own camerapeople and use freelancers instead. But most of those are not happy about P2 vs XDCam, because the XDCam disc media is A) much much MUCH cheaper and B) is not only capture- but also archivation MEDIA.

The rpcicing of P2 is big problem still in Europe. I think in the US the discrepancy between P2 - SxS and XDcam is not as big, but here it is.
32GB for Euro 1000? Come on, that is ridiculous these days.....in fact it is outrageous considering JVC now shoots on 32GB SD cards for Euro 40.
 
Discovery would be a good candidate for switching to Sony's solid-state recording technology. But it isn't going to happen until they find a way to archive the data. Up to now, they are staying strictly with tape-based archiving.

They recently started using hybrid cameras like the Z7U, allowing field producers to view "dailies" on location from the cards while simultaneously sending the "masters" (MiniDV as HDV) in to the net for ingest / edit / archive.

Dumping the 16GB cards takes about as long as the equivalent P2 - which I prefer hands-down.

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I think people misunderstand P2 as an be obsolete tech as a PCMCIA in the computing industry but in the camera/broadcast industry, it found a new life.
 
alpi69 said:
The rpcicing of P2 is big problem still in Europe. I think in the US the discrepancy between P2 - SxS and XDcam is not as big, but here it is.
32GB for Euro 1000? Come on, that is ridiculous these days.....in fact it is outrageous considering JVC now shoots on 32GB SD cards for Euro 40.
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What JVC camera records 100Mb/s to a 32gb SD card?

Oh, that's right, they don't.

You are comparing apples to oranges.
 
The DVX book is fantastic. Thank you for that. I have a question. I'm curious about the best settings to use when filming a scene during 'Magic hour' --sunrise or sunset.

Thank you for any help

Geoff
 
"They would be better off putting that money into used GL1s, and using the savings to get good shows. "

Wow tape are we really that backwards?
 
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Barry_Green said:
I haven't heard of any. Heck, I haven't even heard of any individual stations going with SxS. I went on the Sony site to look at press releases, and they don't have any press releases announcing any stations or networks using SxS. The only press release I found that even mentioned SxS in the title for any organization was for the University of Tulsa's sports department.

Here's the site for Sony Broadcast's press releases, if you want to sift through 'em:
http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/mkt-broadcast/resource.pressreleases

That's just the USA though; don't know what might be going on outside the USA.
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I could not find a presser or a link but the TV station group "Local TV LLC" has already bought some EX-3s and set to outfit most of their stations with EX3s/EX1s. Some stations already have P2 and Xd -cams so they so not need to upgrade.

Local TV owns 16 news organizations mostly in middle America. Also they are in a joint management agreement with Tribune. Tribune I believe also is going to follow suit, as I have seen their start up news station in Ft. Lauderdale using ex-1s. Also I have seen a lot of newspapers using them for their web video.

Personally as a news photographer, I wish they were buying HPX 2000's or Sony PDW 700's. When I get handed a small camera or a cam with 1/3 inch chips I might go postal when I lose those pretty bokeh shots! :kali:
 
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mcgeedigital said:
What JVC camera records 100Mb/s to a 32gb SD card?

Oh, that's right, they don't.

You are comparing apples to oranges.
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$1000 for P2 vs $40 for SDHC isn't apples vs oranges, it is a BMW vs GM. If you care most about getting from point A to point B, and money is tight, then it isn't much of a choice, and Panasonic looses another purchase.

The NBC press release is good news for the P2 crowd. I have personally thought that P2 fits perfectly into the daily local ENG workflow for a long time, so this isn't GREAT news for P2.

What would be GREAT news for P2, is if something like Dateline, or CNN, or whatever that uses mostly freelances stated they were going 100% P2. That is the tough market to crack, but I haven't seen many freelancers wanting to hand off $4,000 worth of cards at the end of the day to a producer they met 10 hours ago.

The EX1 & EX3 fit better into the Indie crowd than local ENG. XDCAM EX has been building a lot of steam for the short period that it has been around. If Sony plays their cards right & comes out with a true shoulder mount 2/3" camera at the price of a HPX500, things will get interesting.

P2 ain't dead, but it is way to early to know which one will win out, or if both will co-exist together.
 
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