myview: italia
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Jason, thanks so much!
Do you also use layer compositing modes for your overall look or just for the vignetting?
And the question concerning me almost the most is: do you have an arts background?
Maybe this is a little of topic here, but I'm always wondering why there seem to be a bunch of guys, you hand a DVX or whatever and they produce good sh*t!
Really, do you guys just sit down in front of lets say FCP and go: Cool, a 3 way CC, finally i can do the Matrix!
How is your artistic approach on these things?
Was there sth before the DVX or did it just start everything for you?
perhaps i should start a poll on that... ;D
Jason, thanks so much!
Do you also use layer compositing modes for your overall look or just for the vignetting?
And the question concerning me almost the most is: do you have an arts background?
Maybe this is a little of topic here, but I'm always wondering why there seem to be a bunch of guys, you hand a DVX or whatever and they produce good sh*t!
Really, do you guys just sit down in front of lets say FCP and go: Cool, a 3 way CC, finally i can do the Matrix!
How is your artistic approach on these things?
Was there sth before the DVX or did it just start everything for you?
perhaps i should start a poll on that... ;D
Re: myview: italia
Not sure I understand the question about layer modes; I guess the vignetting is part of the overall look to some degree, but that's overlaid after the fact, all the footage goes down flat in the edit.
As for the arts background, while I never went to art school, I did study fine art and photography as about 60% of my a-levels in the UK. Since then I've been working in advertising and design in SF. The biggest education I've had has probably been the hours upon hours of burning through stock photography catalogues looking for photos to license for client jobs
I got my first DV camera in 99 or 2000 and messed about with that for a while. At first the focus was on motion graphics, but these days I'm probably more interested in being behind the camera. I was never particularly interested in an particular style of colouring - the biggest question has always been how to create a certain look for the job at hand. So I was definitely blown away when I discovered the 3-way corrector earlier this year. It's probably the single most effective tool we have for making video look beautiful, just as the telecine process is one of the most important parts of making a music video or commercial look hott.
To come back to the original question, the only thing about not going to art school (or film school) is that it leaves you with an awful lot of learning to do. Film school would be pretty cool though; where else are you going to get a chance to play with $30k cameras? I've just ordered a whole bunch of books on working with movie cameras and signed up for some classes in SF, because we will shoot something on film soon, and we won't have any budget to hire a camera op, and if I load the effen thing wrong and ruin $400 of stock and waste ten people's time, I'll feel very silly indeed.
Ok I'll stop now. But it might amuse you to see some of my rather mortifying earlier experiments:
http://www.bubble-squeak.com/pics/movies/
Not sure I understand the question about layer modes; I guess the vignetting is part of the overall look to some degree, but that's overlaid after the fact, all the footage goes down flat in the edit.
As for the arts background, while I never went to art school, I did study fine art and photography as about 60% of my a-levels in the UK. Since then I've been working in advertising and design in SF. The biggest education I've had has probably been the hours upon hours of burning through stock photography catalogues looking for photos to license for client jobs
I got my first DV camera in 99 or 2000 and messed about with that for a while. At first the focus was on motion graphics, but these days I'm probably more interested in being behind the camera. I was never particularly interested in an particular style of colouring - the biggest question has always been how to create a certain look for the job at hand. So I was definitely blown away when I discovered the 3-way corrector earlier this year. It's probably the single most effective tool we have for making video look beautiful, just as the telecine process is one of the most important parts of making a music video or commercial look hott.
To come back to the original question, the only thing about not going to art school (or film school) is that it leaves you with an awful lot of learning to do. Film school would be pretty cool though; where else are you going to get a chance to play with $30k cameras? I've just ordered a whole bunch of books on working with movie cameras and signed up for some classes in SF, because we will shoot something on film soon, and we won't have any budget to hire a camera op, and if I load the effen thing wrong and ruin $400 of stock and waste ten people's time, I'll feel very silly indeed.
Ok I'll stop now. But it might amuse you to see some of my rather mortifying earlier experiments:
http://www.bubble-squeak.com/pics/movies/
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hehe,
liked the creativepeople mov best...
always wondered about film/art school too...
but then i thought: were the hell are all those graduated film students, were's their work?
Best student movies i have seen, were of non film students or at least students that had a different backround first like finearts or even neurology...
well, the dv revolution hasn't brought much either so far...
dogma95, buena vista social club, lately: open water, halbe treppe and das weisse rauschen (both german)... well i'm not up to date anyways...
Jason, just go out and shoot a movie - I'll watch it ;D
hehe,
liked the creativepeople mov best...
always wondered about film/art school too...
but then i thought: were the hell are all those graduated film students, were's their work?
Best student movies i have seen, were of non film students or at least students that had a different backround first like finearts or even neurology...
well, the dv revolution hasn't brought much either so far...
dogma95, buena vista social club, lately: open water, halbe treppe and das weisse rauschen (both german)... well i'm not up to date anyways...
Jason, just go out and shoot a movie - I'll watch it ;D
Young-H._Lee
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Re: myview: italia
hi jasonk
just saw your stuff and holy! very very nice. im not sure what else to say that hasnt been said already, but just add a little bit of my own praise. love teh colors..keep it up and cant wait to see more!
young
hi jasonk
just saw your stuff and holy! very very nice. im not sure what else to say that hasnt been said already, but just add a little bit of my own praise. love teh colors..keep it up and cant wait to see more!
young
Thistlebop
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Re: myview: italia
[quote author=jasonk link=board=Clips;num=1099712239;start=30#39 date=11/08/04 at 01:12:14]
Christian - I never really 'know' what colours to play with, but I find that it helps to drag your shadows and mids in different directions. That way you end up with an overall effect that more closely approximates the original tone of the image (rather than going all-blue, etc), but with greater depth and mood. If the original light sources are mixed, all the better - you choose WB for daylight, for example, and let the incandescent lights go all warm. It also helps to reduce the saturation sometimes - that way you don't get overwhelmed by the colours, and can create a more sombre look. Have a look at some of these sample settings if you like:[/quote]
Jasonk
Which software were you using when you spoke (to Christian) about color correction ?
Was also wondering if that editing effect that you told me about was able to achieve in Vegas ?
Thanks in advance !
--Bop
[quote author=jasonk link=board=Clips;num=1099712239;start=30#39 date=11/08/04 at 01:12:14]
Christian - I never really 'know' what colours to play with, but I find that it helps to drag your shadows and mids in different directions. That way you end up with an overall effect that more closely approximates the original tone of the image (rather than going all-blue, etc), but with greater depth and mood. If the original light sources are mixed, all the better - you choose WB for daylight, for example, and let the incandescent lights go all warm. It also helps to reduce the saturation sometimes - that way you don't get overwhelmed by the colours, and can create a more sombre look. Have a look at some of these sample settings if you like:[/quote]
Jasonk
Which software were you using when you spoke (to Christian) about color correction ?
Was also wondering if that editing effect that you told me about was able to achieve in Vegas ?
Thanks in advance !
--Bop
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jason, like i said before i really love your work, your page is on my favorite list and i visit it often and it inspires me. hopefully by the time i'm your age i will be where you are at. (same goes to your rich lee). The links you post earlier were extremely inprising as well. Its intersting to see what you look up too since i look up to you. Do you have any sites of work you admire? i would love to see them. once again your films are always amazing.
andrew watson
jason, like i said before i really love your work, your page is on my favorite list and i visit it often and it inspires me. hopefully by the time i'm your age i will be where you are at. (same goes to your rich lee). The links you post earlier were extremely inprising as well. Its intersting to see what you look up too since i look up to you. Do you have any sites of work you admire? i would love to see them. once again your films are always amazing.
andrew watson
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Alright. I'm hooked. What a killer band. Their sound has me hooked. This SIA "Breathe Me" (separate from ZERO 7) I just cant stop listening to.
Alright. I'm hooked. What a killer band. Their sound has me hooked. This SIA "Breathe Me" (separate from ZERO 7) I just cant stop listening to.
Thistlebop
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Re: myview: italia
[quote author=jasonk link=board=Clips;num=1099712239;start=45#46 date=11/09/04 at 09:23:41]I do most of the correction in Final Cut, just cause I love the 3-way corrector - don't know if Vegas does exactly the same thing, but it must have something similar, right?[/quote]
I'm sure you're right. But I'll be darned if I know how to use it. Was hoping that you used Vegas, because of the excellence of your short film. Was also hoping that, so that I could use what you told me to try that "Flash" Edit effect. I really want to try that out. But I don't really understand how to do it in Vegas.
--Bop
[quote author=jasonk link=board=Clips;num=1099712239;start=45#46 date=11/09/04 at 09:23:41]I do most of the correction in Final Cut, just cause I love the 3-way corrector - don't know if Vegas does exactly the same thing, but it must have something similar, right?[/quote]
I'm sure you're right. But I'll be darned if I know how to use it. Was hoping that you used Vegas, because of the excellence of your short film. Was also hoping that, so that I could use what you told me to try that "Flash" Edit effect. I really want to try that out. But I don't really understand how to do it in Vegas.
--Bop