My take on the AF100

Ticheli

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I'll be scarce around here for a while; many jobs in the queue and, really, there's not very much left to discuss about the AF100, although there is much excitement about new lenses and accessories. I'll just sum my evaluation with this post and move on to the real world.

1. We can debate for decades just what "filmic" and "cinematic" means, but in the commonly accepted definitions, the AF100 is fully capable of producing filmic images. It takes more skill than shooting film or high-end digital, both of which are more forgiving because they have inherently better image quality and latitude, but any good cinematographer can do it.

If you do really stupid things, like one-thousandth of a second shutter and wacked out settings, you can easily make the camera look terrible. You can do lighting that would embarrass a blowtorch and make terrible pictures. The fault is yours, not the camera's. If your images look like "video," the fault is yours. Learn to do your craft better.

2. There is currently nothing else on the market that offers this kind of price to performance. Nothing. Every DSLR is a horrible kludge with severe problems. Barry Green has posted a very definitive list that covers this like a blanket. If you don't believe this, you're in denial.

3. If the image quality of the AF100 is not up to your standards, you have no choice other than shooting film or high-end digital; e.g., Red or Alexa. It's perverse to complain that a sub-five thousand dollar camera is not a Red; it's insane to complain it's not an Alexa. It's also annoying and sophomoric. I take that back; it's not to sophomore level; it's third grade; bratty.

I wish you all the best; make pretty pictures with whatever you're shooting.

Leo
 
Nicely stated. I couldn't agree more. After a month of shooting with the camera I am VERY happy with the images I am getting from it.
 
I agree. It's not a point and shoot camera you have to know what you are doing and work within the limits of the camera. It's not a perfect camera but hey for that price I love it!
 
Agree! Know your tool set, and when to switch to a different size screwdriver.

We are still under a blanket of snow here with many shoots pushed. So it's going to get very busy once the weather clears.

All the Best!

Dave
 
I agree with what's been stated but I don't agree that if you don't like the images it gives then you have to move up to a RED. There's plenty of cameras in-between that'll one-up the AF100 but not force you to go RED or Alexa. Not picking a fight I'm just saying.

I love the idea, price, etc. of the AF100 but because of it's codec (no matter how well people tell me it can hold up) I want to stay clear. It's not my sole reason but it's a big one. 422 more specifically is important to me. Also, I've seen some clips out of the camera without any processing and I wasn't that impressed (with how the codec handled things). Yes, someone who really has great light and knows this camera well will do exceptionally well with it, I agree. It will definitely produce great stuff just like a DSLR can and it's H264, but I don't think I would want to shoot my next feature on it. Just one mans opinion, I'm not casting any absolutes here!

I won't be looking down on any AF100 users at all. It's just not the camera for me. Some might think I'm nuts but I'm eye-balling a Canon XF300 with a 35mm Adapter. Again, call me crazy but that's what I'm more comfortable with. Both options have their plus / minus, but I need to make a judgement call given my needs / wants just as everyone else must.

Happy shooting! :)
 
Some good points. No tool is perfect.


We've been very happy with what the AF100 offers us and people who use it (since it's rarely ever me) are often very impressed. You take the good the with bad, compare it against your own needs and decide if it's right.
 
Kyle - That combo will be killer and I can see why and I don't think you are crazy. I have a 5D, GH2 and although the image is really nice - the perceived depth is different to the DOF adaptors. I know folks want to move on from them but I can still say there is an organic nature to the ground glass that gives a separation of the forground and the background in a pleasing way. Add to that the grain that is 'arguably' more film like for those who like the look. Good luck shooting with your setup - I am going one less - probably AX10 with the SGBLADE to a nanoflash. About the same size as an AF100 once the rig is set up.

Later on in the year when the dust has settled after NAB I hope to move to one of the new offerings for when I want to have clean. Problem is we will be really spoilt for choice. The AF100 is intriguing to me but I am drawn to the NXcam Sony in the same price bracket. If it looks similiar to the F3 then I am more open to it. I need to see more footage from the AF100 to a Nano at the highest bit rate so that colour grading can push it every which way. It may be what I need in the long term but need to see more. Scarlet may have too long a waiting list.

Petros - help me out as I am not aware of why it is a blunder - is the placement of the audio input really bad? If so why?
 
Can I say I am fed up with people rubbishing the camera when they have only had it for a few days. It takes time to set it up and with the benefit of shared knowledge on this board settings can be found that fulfill most needs. If the quality is not good enough in this price bracket then it is simple go Sony F3 and beyond. I needed a camera to shoot nice SDOF interviews, to have a very wide angle lens for a particular production, and a long lens for reasonable wildlife pictures. This camera gives me all these features with good quality at a very affordable cost. For real run and gun I will continue to use an EX1/3 and have the best of both worlds.
 
Can I say I am fed up with people rubbishing the camera when they have only had it for a few days.

...add people who: don't own one / have never shot with one / are going off fractional 2nd/3rd hand information / etc. I don't get on Canon / Sony / Red forums crapping on those cameras, and no amount of reading or viewing youtube/vimeo footage would give me any right.

This thing's been out for about a month, and even experts are still feeling their way to optimal settings, and 2nd nature familiarity. I'd love to have Leo come back here in a few months, and render a verdict backed by tons of footage and experienced gained from paying jobs.
 
While i have to agreed some of the complaint of the camera is overly critical, it does have it minor flaw such as the slightly greenish LCD, very slow AF/push AF with lumix lens than on the GH1.
 
I agree w/ the OP completely. As of right now, there is simply NO ALTERNATIVE to the AF100 in its price range.
 
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While i have to agreed some of the complaint of the camera is overly critical, it does have it minor flaw such as the slightly greenish LCD, very slow AF/push AF with lumix lens than on the GH1.

I don't notice the green tint at all on my cam
 
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