My First Card Failure and Lost Clip Disaster!

Plenty of reports say class 4 works... many recommend class 6 though.

You also can unload it faster with class 6...
 
MadHMC150 said:
You also can unload it faster with class 6...
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Really? while transfering files from a card to the computer, they all take about a GB per minute (class 4 & 6) i dont think is any faster... I think the limit is set by the USB transfer, maybe a different card-reader is in order for me :grin: (non usb)
 
Superfresa66 said:
Really? while transfering files from a card to the computer, they all take about a GB per minute (class 4 & 6) i dont think is any faster... I think the limit is set by the USB transfer, maybe a different card-reader is in order for me :grin: (non usb)
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A while back we did read/write tests on a bunch of cards... the class 6 were clearly faster read times... but there were a couple 4's that performed as good as 6's.
 
Adata cards

Adata cards

I am working on a run and gun doc right now and purchased 6 adata 32 gbs cards from frys. One week of hard shooting in and 2 of the 6 have failed. I should have known better but didn't have time to order anything else online before i left.
 
Connolly said:
I am working on a run and gun doc right now and purchased 6 adata 32 gbs cards from frys. One week of hard shooting in and 2 of the 6 have failed. I should have known better but didn't have time to order anything else online before i left.
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Adata and Transcends from Taiwan are so far pretty unreliable...

Anyone have Patriot problems ?
 
Adata seems to be the worst. I've had good results shooting alot of class 6 Kingston.

PQI is a lower cost card that I haven't had any problems with but have not shot alot with them.
Anyone else shot with PQI?
 
I just bought a 16gb class 4 Toshiba card. Seems really fast, on par with my 16gb Class 6 Panny ones. I can't seem to find a difference between them.

Where does one buy these "Patriots" from??
 
Thanks mate. They look like a good card but at that price its still better for me to buy locally. My Toshiba one cost me $44,,, it will cost me more than that to land one of those Patiots here. I can also get 32bg Class 6 cards for $120 but i'm sticking with the 16's for now.
 
Just an update for anyone following this thread.

I had some major problems with my camera. In the middle of shooting, I received a message on my screen "CHECK CARD." This happened twice. In both cases, the cards were ruined. Couldn't be recognized by the camera. Couldn't be recognized as a mounted drive on a computer.

I sent one card to the manufacturer and they responded saying nothing was recoverable and they gave me a new card. Great. That wedding was lost forever.

The second card I sent to Panasonic, along with the camera. Panasonic was able to reproduce the problem in one of their own cards. They have agreed to send me a new camera. Apparently it was beyond repair. And I think they wanted to send it to Japan for diagnosis. They also sent the bad card to Japan for diagnosis and possible recover. I have no hopes the footage is recoverable.

I believe I happened to get a lemon. It's bound to happen. The Panasonic person said they've sold thousands of these my camera was one of two with problems. I don't blame Panasonic for having something defective. For the most part Panasonic took appropriate action to help. They gave me a new camera and they even gave me a few Panasonic cards. I'm not happy I was without my camera for over a month. I was not happy that I lost footage that I will never get. But, I'm alive. I'm healthy. Nobody died. Nobody's life was ruined. And I'm back on my feet.
 
Great Trevor!

This is the first time I heard about manufacturing defect in camera.
You had "One in Thousand" experience.

Best of Luck for your Future! :)
 
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I have an Adata 16gb card, Class 6, and it can only record for 12 mins then it gives me the check card error. I don't seem to lose any data though, I've shot a stopwatch and my footage is all there.

If I hit record again, all is well. This happens 100% every time with this card and my 150. So needless to say, that card is now living in my Canon still camera.

Otherwise, My Delkin Devices 16 GB gets the majority of work, and my Patriot 16 GB handles overflow, then I've got a couple Kingston 2 GB's SD in the 911 pouch.

Tempted to move to 8 GB cards, just for the safety factor of data and physical loss.
 
I'm mystified by the fact that no one has even mentioned PNY cards. (According to a search on the forum.) They seem widely available and typically purport to be appropriate for video. Has anybody had any experience with these?
 
Update:

I was shooting some tests to check for flash banding on my HMC40 this morning. I started by using a SanDisk Extreme class 10 card that I'd just purchased, and a Transcend 16GB class 6 card which was made in Taiwan. The SanDisk performed flawlessly; the Taiwanese version of the Transcend did not.

I formatted both cards, shot and reviewed the clips for flash banding, then formatted the cards before removal (to erase the clips and prep the cards for use again). I got a 'Check Card' message on the Transcend after the second format. I then removed the card, fiddled with the write protect tab and reinserted it into the cam. The card came up as a green icon, so I reformatted to be safe and shot a clip or two with no problems. I then turned off the cam, let it sit for a moment, then turned it back on. The 'Check Card' message came up again.

I used the same type of Transcend 16GB card on an installation in a focus group facility for a customer who has a standard def Canon SDHC camera (FS200). The card worked well on a couple test shots, then failed to format a couple of times afterwards.

Fortunately these events happened while testing and not on paying jobs. But coupled with previous negative posts about the Taiwanese Transcends, I'd suggest being careful with this version of the cards. I'm dumping mine (and have replaced the customers card) just to be safe.

As an aside, my experiences seem to point more towards bad cards than camera hardware or firmware problems. My HMC40 has been used for over 30 hours now (mostly with SanDisk Extreme III 's and Chinese Transcend class 6 cards) without a hitch.
 
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Mark,

Around what time and where from did you buy your Transcend card and HMC150? I'm curious if we can pin down a "bad batch" of either.

Also it wouldn't hurt to hang on to that SD card if you haven't tossed it yet, I'm sure we can come up with a series of diagnostics to run on the cards or if you don't want the hassle, mail the card to someone to troubleshoot.

I for one would love some way of knowing which cards will be prone to dying (aside from "don't use Taiwan Transcends" since it's affected Panasonic-brand, too)
 
TigerFX said:
Mark,

Around what time and where from did you buy your Transcend card and HMC150? I'm curious if we can pin down a "bad batch" of either.

Also it wouldn't hurt to hang on to that SD card if you haven't tossed it yet, I'm sure we can come up with a series of diagnostics to run on the cards or if you don't want the hassle, mail the card to someone to troubleshoot.

I for one would love some way of knowing which cards will be prone to dying (aside from "don't use Taiwan Transcends" since it's affected Panasonic-brand, too)
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Sorry Tiger, I meant 'toss' metaphorically. I'll hang on to the card - but not in the rotation - with the hopes of trying to run a diagnostic on it in the future.

The (2) Transcends that seem to be bad came from the same Newegg order; bought this August. I also have (2) 8GB class 6 cards bought directly from Transcend around that same time. Just tested them today after the 16GB card glitch and they seem to be fine.

My HMC40 arrived in early September. I've done several jobs with it and have had no problems with it whatsoever.
 
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