GH2 My final video shot on GH2?

[dan.carter]

I love your work Dan, and respect your opinion. I think for the type of shooting you do, your opinion is spot on. But for narrative work, and shooting 24p, the gh3 has a more pronounced video look than the gh2, This is of course nothing but my opinion. Maybe it's the slight change in sensor size, or just the new sensor all together. IDK, but even when I watch PB'S promo film, certain shots look so videoish to me. Maybe is psychological or something, idk

You raise a great point Shane. It may be more psychological than we know. Where for me, the more "video like" the better, others want a different look. Shooting mostly landscape and architecture, I'm looking for sharp detail and smooth 60p pans and tilts where every frame is equally sharp, others prefer the 24p look. I'd guess we each have a certain psychological look bias.

Though the GH3 may eventually prove to favor a "video look", for now we should be wary of our own "look bias" condemning or over glorifying a camera that is almost infinitely adjustable, but fairly new to us.

 

[dan.carter]

Dan, thanks for the compliments on the video.
I have avoided the All-I codec. I shoot 24p using the 50mb/s setting. But I have encountered moire and aliasing in situations where the GH2 would not have a problem. Actually, I NEVER had the problem with the GH2.

Interesting. I had a recent GH3 12-35 f2.8 project which needed a clip I'd shot several months previous with the GH2 and same lens. The GH2 clip was the only one with moire. Go figure...

 

[dvbrother]

Interesting. I had a recent GH3 12-35 f2.8 project which needed a clip I'd shot several months previous with the GH2 and same lens. The GH2 clip was the only one with moire. Go figure...

I HAVE noticed that my GH3 clips that exhibit aliasing were all shot with Lumix lenses. The 12-35mm or the 20mm pancake. I have a hunch the super-sharpness of these modern lenses exacerbates the issue. If I use a legacy Nikon or Canon lens via an adapter, I'm much less likely to have a problem. So, I guess I need to stick with vintage glass when shooting video. Or put some kind of filtration in front of the Lumix lenses to soften them a bit.

 

[sawmac]

Or put some kind of filtration in front of the Lumix lenses to soften them a bit.

Have you tried setting the Sharpness to -5 in Photostyle (page 159 of the manual)? I haven't tried that myself, but I wonder if that would help.

--Dave

 

[SuperSet]

I've posted this before but here's a smal clip from one of my projects using the GH3 + Voigtlander 25mm (a soft lens) shot at Natural -4 -4 - 1 -5. Certain shirt patterns is where I've been noticing the moire so I've been editing around it, using a longer focal length lens.

https://vimeo.com/57644642

 

[J.F.R.]

You raise a great point Shane. It may be more psychological than we know. Where for me, the more "video like" the better, others want a different look. Shooting mostly landscape and architecture, I'm looking for sharp detail and smooth 60p pans and tilts where every frame is equally sharp, others prefer the 24p look. I'd guess we each have a certain psychological look bias.

Though the GH3 may eventually prove to favor a "video look", for now we should be wary of our own "look bias" condemning or over glorifying a camera that is almost infinitely adjustable, but fairly new to us.

Shot with GH3 and 25mm Slr Magic
this looks NOTHING like Dan Carter's footage and shot with the same camera......

With the GH3 you can achieve the look you want and as I said before
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[dan.carter]

Shot with GH3 and 25mm Slr Magic
this looks NOTHING like Dan Carter's footage and shot with the same camera......

With the GH3 you can achieve the look you want and as I said before
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Great example J.F.R.! Seasoned to taste...

 

[dvbrother]

Have you tried setting the Sharpness to -5 in Photostyle (page 159 of the manual)? I haven't tried that myself, but I wonder if that would help.

--Dave

Yes, I've tried that. Doesn't make a significant difference. Moire and aliasing seem to happen pre-sharpening.