My DVX trailer

One thing is strange

One thing is strange

Isn't it strange that he says that he used 24p in this trailer, but there's still interlacing problems...?
 
ALL of us want it to be true. We all want to believe it can be done the way Ozan did it. But some of us are a little skeptical because we do not want to be made a fool... and lied to and have our dreams shattered. That's why this thread is, and Ozan's work is so controversial.
 
cruiserkernan said:
Isn't it strange that he says that he used 24p in this trailer, but there's still interlacing problems...?
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That's just from exporting the quicktime file. You can clearly see the trailer was shot progressive.

Whether this trailer cost 2 cents or 2 million dollars is irrelevant to me. Whether he shot it by himself or not, I don't care. The fact that he showed you don't need Hollywood's team of geniuses to make a movie is what excites me about watching this.

These are the facts: A. a small camera of some sort was used. B. Actors were used. C. Locations were used. Stir them all in a pot and trust me, it's going to come off everyones' stoves a little differently. Ozan seems to have won top chef on this one. We can ask camera settings all day. Won't matter.

I don't know this young man personally but I sure as heck took notes. Talent is talent no matter how you slice it. Whether he was at the helm and had a huge team of talented people working for him or otherwise, he got results we're all striving for. We just have to ask ourselves now that we know it's possible to make something amazing, are we going to settle for mediocrity or make our next project just as good if not better than what we just saw. We all have the tools. What we do with them is a whole other story.
 
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cruiserkernan said:
Isn't it strange that he says that he used 24p in this trailer, but there's still interlacing problems...?
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i sometimes get interlaced artifacting once in a while in my 24p and 24pa footage. sometimes ois or something else.
 
Spinflight said:
....... Talent is talent no matter how you slice it. Whether he was at the helm and had a huge team of talented people working for him or otherwise, he got results we're all striving for......
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Thumbs up!:smiley_up

You are so right because, talented people make hard things look easy;Where average people make easy tasks look difficult. I have seen it all my life where talented people just execute with ease through projects. Some people got it and some people don't. Just because some people can put a tape in the camera and press the record button and yell action does not mean they are gifted.
And judging from all the responses to Ozan's footage since he's been a member of this forum,people were blown away,awed and amazed at his footage that he posted in the past. Ozan,Broken2005(Alex Ferrari) and Ronco(sp) have demonstrated what the DVX100 series cameras' are capable of in talented hands.

On Ozan trailer's METH, you got to respect his vision and his EYE for framing and pacing.
 
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Looks like there was some activity on the front page of this thread. I just finished looking threw the posted frame stills. WOW, can the DVX really produce these images? The quailty is amazing, look at image 5458 - is that even possible?

Seriously, if the DVX can truely produce these images then I definitely made the right choice purchasing my friends old DVX100! This gets me excited!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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this may not help, but he has a gregor phillips listed for the sound...this might be the same guy...

Gregor Phillips - MySpace

for those that dare send him a PM and see if he worked on Meth...i doubt ozan is filling up myspace with alternate IDs :)
 
Spinflight said:
That's just from exporting the quicktime file. You can clearly see the trailer was shot progressive.

Whether this trailer cost 2 cents or 2 million dollars is irrelevant to me. Whether he shot it by himself or not, I don't care. The fact that he showed you don't need Hollywood's team of geniuses to make a movie is what excites me about watching this.

These are the facts: A. a small camera of some sort was used. B. Actors were used. C. Locations were used. Stir them all in a pot and trust me, it's going to come off everyones' stoves a little differently. Ozan seems to have won top chef on this one. We can ask camera settings all day. Won't matter.

I don't know this young man personally but I sure as heck took notes. Talent is talent no matter how you slice it. Whether he was at the helm and had a huge team of talented people working for him or otherwise, he got results we're all striving for. We just have to ask ourselves now that we know it's possible to make something amazing, are we going to settle for mediocrity or make our next project just as good if not better than what we just saw. We all have the tools. What we do with them is a whole other story.
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Very well said.


And I can't believe some of the posts on this topic.

Shame on some of you here (you know who you are) who just cannot accept that this guy came up with such beautiful footage.

Jealousy.

They realize they don't have an ounce of the guy's talent and attack him when they should heap praises on him for the work he's done.

If anything, this, just like the amazing HVX footage from ILLEGAL, should inspire all of us to do better on our next projects.

I know I have been inspired.

And I couldn't care less how much it was made for. I liked what I saw and that's all that matters.
 
Jee why is everybody bitching about the Mercedes? I know plenty of people with flashy cars and if they didn't care much about insurance they'd lend it to me. Heck my dad has a mercedes CLK, would you call me a liar if I did a no budget shoot and the car happened to be in it? I'm not saying the guy is innocent because let's face it, I have no way of finding any proof. However...

When you mention you're making a film project to people, they get excited. Especially guys. Young guys. If you notice in the film, mostly young men, having fun, working for nothing most likely. People want to help out. You borrow stuff that you usually couldn't get because friends and family get amped up about the final product. It's really not -that- inconceivable.

And we edited a 30 minute film in a month and a half working part time. So 6-7 months for shooting and editing...well that seems gosh darned reasonable to me. Besides, you guys are judging from the trailer, how do you even know whether the rest of the film holds up? If you shoot say, 3 hours of footage, you're going to find some nice footage to beef out a 1 minute trailer!

I just think it's unfair that people instantly assume a little creativity is all fake. I'd love to see some photos from on set but if he was the only crew member, that's not going to happen.

And lastly...some people here don't seem to have used the DVX....because they seem to assume if it doesn't have an adapter on it, it won't look as good as it does here..to which i say, what the hell???

edit: and i'm sure some of that is stock footage..if its not stock then that's where I get suspicious
 
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Ok. I am not going to bring this down, but let me say, it's not the BEST DVX footage I've ever seen. It is good. The color grading is VERY good, your skill is shown there for sure. Looks like a cross between Traffic and Man on Fire. Give us some info on stuff... what'd you do for lighting? I am assuming just some reflector's outside, plus your mad color grading skills really makes this pop. But, it's decent DVX footage with amazing color grading. :)
 
Yep. America, this is how it's done. In my life I've shot two grade B features on very small budgets, but the fact is yes, you need actors, yes you need locations, yes you need talent and yes you will have to shell out some cash or have massive resources or both. Keep in mind this is just a trailer, we don't know how the movie looks, but the key here is trailers sale movies. I want to see this. He made me want to see this. For now his job is done.

I don't see how anyone could have anything negative to say about this. The fact you have a speeding car anywhere in your movie seem to make it look like you've spent some money on it. The locations were somewhat standard but for the plot it's what we're used to, the acting was good, the sound and action was superb. This was shot on the DVX. Put this on TV and see who knows the difference. If this cat wasn't in this forum showcasing this I wouldn't know and neither would many of us.

People thought I shot my first film on a few thousand dollars. Truth is we had under a $1000. My first film wasn't great, but the fact someone thought I had spent more then I did says something to me. My question is how much does it look like he spent on that trailer. A lot. Does it make you want to see it? Yes. I would buy or rent this.
Case closed.
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This guy is a sham. He writes like a nine year old and doesn't answer any tough questions. As fifteen thousand people have already said, he still hasn't given us the budget. The helicopter shot. Mercedes. Expensive locations. Swat team stuff (I know everybody has said how they THINK he got them cheap. But HE hasn't told us how he got them cheap). Anyway, I give up.
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Dude I had a bunch of guys in mask with guns, plus I had expensive locations (cost me $100 for the day but it was actually an expensive house not to mention I shot in a model's condo for free). Honestly he could've pulled this all off for $1000. Trust me, many of us are kings of low budget. You spend the money where you need it, helicopter shot cost big, cut corners elsewhere but don't make it seem as if you did. Also if you look at the trailer everything is fast cuts and tightshots. Not to mention I believe the SWAT team was shot from several different angles and used twice and they're using Airsoft guns. Not saying this was done on a low budget but it can be with planning.


-Nate
 
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A recap of the "facts"...

1. Movie was shot in his spare time for fun.
2. Budget was just mere pennies.
3. No adapter was used, just the stock lens.
4. Directing, shooting, editing, lighting, and sound were all done by one person. (later he added that someone else actually did the music.)
5. He doesn't have enough money to buy equipment like an adapter. (well another adapter anyway. the one he has he didn't use on this shoot).
6. Achieved his look by setting all the presets to zero. Then just did everything in post.
7. The sound for most of the action was the mic on the dvx.
8. Used some old lavs for dialogue.
9. Got his actors through a normal casting session. (even though he didnt have money to pay them).
10. Achieved DOF by just zooming in.
11. Added credits he borrowed from another movie.
 
ugafan said:
A recap of the "facts"...

1. Movie was shot in his spare time for fun.
2. Budget was just mere pennies.
3. No adapter was used, just the stock lens.
4. Directing, shooting, editing, lighting, and sound were all done by one person. (later he added that someone else actually did the music.)
5. He doesn't have enough money to buy equipment like an adapter. (well another adapter anyway. the one he has he didn't use on this shoot).
6. Achieved his look by setting all the presets to zero. Then just did everything in post.
7. The sound for most of the action was the mic on the dvx.
8. Used some old lavs for dialogue.
9. Got his actors through a normal casting session. (even though he didnt have money to pay them).
10. Achieved DOF by just zooming in.
11. Added credits he borrowed from another movie.
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Yeah, some of the music is from the movie "The Island"

Shot in spare time 'just for fun' seriously? hm.

Yeah, shooting flat settings with the DVX and workin' it in post is the WAY to go, IMHO! :)
 
ugafan said:
A recap of the "facts"...

1. Movie was shot in his spare time for fun.
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So was my first feature.
ugafan said:
2. Budget was just mere pennies.
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What do you consider pennies? $500 - $1000 is pennies in filmmaking.
ugafan said:
3. No adapter was used, just the stock lens.
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Never use an adapter and can rack focus and all that good stuff.
ugafan said:
4. Directing, shooting, editing, lighting, and sound were all done by one person. (later he added that someone else actually did the music.)
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He didn't have to say that. I hand stuff off to other too to do the mustic.
ugafan said:
5. He doesn't have enough money to buy equipment like an adapter. (well another adapter anyway. the one he has he didn't use on this shoot).
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You can shoot this with the money you spend on an adapter.
ugafan said:
6. Achieved his look by setting all the presets to zero. Then just did everything in post.
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No impossible. He did it all in post.
ugafan said:
7. The sound for most of the action was the mic on the dvx.
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You really doubt what the DVX is capable of. I've shot night scenes with no light but what's the street. It's a more than capable camera and the sound it very much professional quality. It can be done.
ugafan said:
8. Used some old lavs for dialogue.
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Old lavs don't work? What's so impossible?
ugafan said:
9. Got his actors through a normal casting session. (even though he didnt have money to pay them).
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People do it all the time. I shot my whole first film this way and most of my new one like this, but I did have to pay the main actors as they were professionals.
ugafan said:
10. Achieved DOF by just zooming in.
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Not hard to do.
ugafan said:
11. Added credits he borrowed from another movie.
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Again not hard amazing or impossible. Again he could be lying his butt off but it's not impossible.

-Nate
 
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