My DVX trailer

Indestry_Veteran said:
Heyy! I am so mad at you guys! I have been working for industry in many dozens of years + shame on your selves for talking 2 ozan like that. ozan is a great great filmmaiker, like Peter Jackson and I have every belief in him that he made the movie in question? I would give all of yr selves a slap on the rist b/cause ozan made this movie all for free and with pennies. he use camera with shutter and if u don't belief him then you have bad written on your forehead. Ozan duzn't need 2 anser your questions b/cause i have every believe that he is not have to listen to the dvxuser bandwagon of meanness. Stop attacking him or I will get to angry land.
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When I joined DVXUSER I was a bit apprehensive about asking questions in this forum at first. I think I spent 99% of my time just reading. It took me a little bit of time to build up the courage to even ask a question. I didn't even own a dvx. Since then, I have a DVX100b, have shot some video, messed around in my NLE system and have leaned on this forum for every question I have ever needed in regards to the my DVX, Audio and Editing. I am forever grateful to everyone here at this forum that has responded to my questions.
That being said, I am now a member, not a Junior Member but a Member. Its like being accepted as part of the family. I'm proud of it as well.
With all this being said, I can't be the only one that feels this way about some of these defense posts by new members that have joined this month.

WOW...!!! I feel like I a character on C.S.I. or maybe my 11 year old son. It seems so obvious.

These defense posts reads to me like Ozan himself.

Is this month (Jan 2007) the record month for Junior Members?

Would the real Ozan... Please stand up!

I do think the trailer is top notch as does allot of the members of this forum however, I feel a bit cheated, robbed... if you will...

Sometimes I wish I never read this post or saw this trailer, because I can't come close to this type of polished cinematography with spare time and pennies for a budget.
 
Hi Ozan,

The trailer is awesome, from the sound to the shots, very very nice job. Now I've seen a few mistakes in your trailer,

- Interlacing.

- Guy passing a window mid way, walking from right to left. ( you can see yourself in the window, not much, but I caught it)

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Now there's been alot of controversy on your trailer about a using a 35mm adapter.

What I've seen is,

Vignetting in a few (sky, a couple of shots in rooms, road, etc.).

Now what's got me questioning is if you did or if you used something like a macro, wide lens, etc. is the smearing on a couple of shots (pill boxes), and chromatic aberration.


Besides all of the controversy and criticism, I thought it was very well put together, with or without an adapter. NICE JOB and good luck with your film!!!



My question still stands, curious to what mics were used?
 
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Wow. I don't know what's more spectacular, the trailer or some people's reactions?

Ozan has posted some killer work here in the past and he's definitely got skills.

Footage looks like it was shot with a DVX. Sound mix was finalized by someone else. This could entirely be done for pennies by one person if you have talent and know all the right people.

So what's the problem here?
 
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I buy his story. I've been experimenting with DOF and what you saw in the trailer is a piece of cake if you zoom all the way in on shots (and use a good tripod to avoid movement0. Same with actors, a couple of friends of mine, who I know through my girlfriend's job, are professional actors who are in the new Jamie Foxx movie coming out - and they had real roles, not just extras. In fact I'm going to use them for mock scenes in a new sales training video I'm doing - they'll be playing sales reps trying to sell me.

This is definitely 100% possible without a huge budget, just a few friends in the right places as I have.
 
I know Ozan, he does freelance camera for me sometimes.
I was one of the friends that he would send test edits to, so I'm familiar with the Meth project.

First off, Ozan is a talented director, I think we all can agree on that.
He's already getting bites from some production houses because of Meth.

He does about four specs a year, so he's pretty solid behind the DVX.
The thing that really impressed me, aside from his natural ability to shoot and edit, was how little resources he has to work with.
I've frequently seen jobs 100x the budget that dont turn out as well.

Here's the facts....
-His budget was around $900 CDN.
-SWAT uniforms were from a North Van company called Phoenix, and they're left-overs from an xmen3 shoot... so they were loaned to him.
-Ozan films for a Vancouver car drifting club, so he has lots of friends with fast cars who want to be filmed drifting for free ie:the black Merc.
-He didn't use a 35mm adapter.
-Helijet airways flies all over the lower-mainland like public transit, you just buy a ticket and film out the window.
-Vancouver is a major film hub, and has a very large percentage of hungry actors willing to work for free to build their reels.
Filmmakers can post an ad, and literally get hundreds of responses.
-He shot, edited, and did all the post by himself.... sound design was credited to someone else.
-The sand dunes are in Richmond BC, and are open to the public.... although they require permits to shoot big jobs.
-Most impressive thing to me was how he got into a small container yard for free... very tough post 9-11.
He was denied by about ten yards until he found a smaller yard that would let him shoot during some off-hours.
-Interiors are all properly balanced/exposed available light. Most are Ozan's friend's offices... the chief's office is mine.

Nice job Ozan, bright future ahead of you.
 
Wtf is up with all of the 2007 join dates in this thread? No credibility, I'm sorry.

Nice LOOKING trailer, glad you could do it for next-to-nothing. most everyone here could do the same iif they actually put as much effort into it. That said, let's stop with the new join dates. Makes this entire thing seem super fishy, and superficial.
 
Oh my God. Ozan's dad has now joined DVXUser.

What I want to know, is how Ozan's dad knows more about the movie than Ozan does.
 
Okay wow made it through 13 pages of disbelief and shock...

my opinion...the DVX footage would look great in the hands of a capable cinematographer...nuff said.

as for props and locations...i can easily get my hands on a rolls-royce bentley for free. it belongs to a friend. guns and swat stuff i have a few friends that work law enforcement. one is a DEA agent. so i could get real guns with blanks and authentic uniforms - the only thing i couldn't use would be the badges. those need to be fake or if they are real then an actual officer needs tobe in the uniform - that's just local law (if not state).

as for locations myself and people i know have gotten mansions, hospitals, the airport...all for free by either putting someone in their movie, providing some form of commercial advertisment, offering to shoot commerical ads, or just asking and the people saying "yeah sure"

heck the real problem with this "trailer" is that it's over 2 minutes and there's credits. out of all the nitpicking going on here...whether it was DVX or an ARRI the trailer is too long and there's credits...who rolls credits on a trailer??????
 
novelt said:
Okay wow made it through 13 pages of disbelief and shock...

my opinion...the DVX footage would look great in the hands of a capable cinematographer...nuff said.

as for props and locations...i can easily get my hands on a rolls-royce bentley for free. it belongs to a friend. guns and swat stuff i have a few friends that work law enforcement. one is a DEA agent. so i could get real guns with blanks and authentic uniforms - the only thing i couldn't use would be the badges. those need to be fake or if they are real then an actual officer needs tobe in the uniform - that's just local law (if not state).

as for locations myself and people i know have gotten mansions, hospitals, the airport...all for free by either putting someone in their movie, providing some form of commercial advertisment, offering to shoot commerical ads, or just asking and the people saying "yeah sure"

heck the real problem with this "trailer" is that it's over 2 minutes and there's credits. out of all the nitpicking going on here...whether it was DVX or an ARRI the trailer is too long and there's credits...who rolls credits on a trailer??????
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Seriously, though. Everyone's totally concerned with the WRONG thing. Anyone who takes their time to do it right can pull this off. Thing is, people want to rush things.

Sheesh.
 
Kholi said:
Seriously, though. Everyone's totally concerned with the WRONG thing. Anyone who takes their time to do it right can pull this off. Thing is, people want to rush things.

Sheesh.
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Enough talk.
post your directors reel, and let us decide if you can pull it off.
 
westcoast said:
Enough talk.
post your directors reel, and let us decide if you can pull it off.
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Sorry, I don't leap head-first into a production bent on a poor, under-developed script. I currently spend my time in Final Draft, where your friend should be after hearing the dialogue in this [neat looking] trailer; that's what WRITERS do.

Edit: But, enough of that. I'm out of this thread. Good luck.
 
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I have to agree, I believe Ozan did this with his amazing talent.

If you read Ozan's old post, he does a lot of research on the dvx100.
On one of his thread, he asked how to get the T.V distortion with after effects, he used that in that trailer he made.

Just read his old posts
Good job Ozan
 
Hi there,

I think this was possible to pull off over time with limited resources. Job well done.

The sound Quality is awesome, and I think the good sound also helps the visuals look very pro. Like they say sound is half your picture.

- Derrick
 
If you really study the video, you'll see that it's the post work that's really surprised us all. Editing, aspect ratio, sound design and color corection. Meaning, it's visual story telling done right.
Whether it's a DVX or HVX I'm not quite sure, but it's definitely the stock lens. Using an adapter has too many tell tale signs that don't seem to show up in any of the footage. Unless he happened to get a revolutionary new one that's super sharp and clear. His zooming back and forth is a stock lens zoom, not from an adapter.

To pull this off by himself, it seems he would have to keep the camera as inconspicuous as possible as to not attract too much attention. As indie film makers, we're all trying to make films for no money. It just looks like Ozan just raised the bar. I think I read a post where someone challenged his intellect. Sometimes the really smart ones are the ones telling others it can't be done, while the "dumb" ones just go out and do because they don't know it can't be done.

I think after watching this, we have a lot of homework to do. Ozan, thanks for the inspiration. No matter how you pulled it off.
 
Spinflight said:
Sometimes the really smart ones are the ones telling others it can't be done, while the "dumb" ones just go out and do because they don't know it can't be done.
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I think this is actually the truest thing ever said.
 
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